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1 posted on 05/23/2007 2:59:55 PM PDT by george76
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Well, hell, of course they are unprepared. Most of thenm can’t make change good enough to make a living at MacDonalds!


2 posted on 05/23/2007 3:04:39 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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Educators say the need for remedial work is fueled largely by a lack of communication between high schools and colleges about what’s important to know

Unbelievable how they keep making up these bogus justifications. When I went to high school and then college, they had figured out what we needed to know. Now they can't remember what they knew then. Ridiculous!

3 posted on 05/23/2007 3:05:50 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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What I find most funny is how all I hear about these days is how kids are loading up on their AP classes in high school. Hor ironic!


4 posted on 05/23/2007 3:06:13 PM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative
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And Alex wasn’t prepared for the Ludovico Technique.


5 posted on 05/23/2007 3:06:49 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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Metmom, we’ve been pinging each other for a while. You know what to do...


7 posted on 05/23/2007 3:11:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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“I don’t understand how Democrats support telling schools how and what to teach their children about sex, but disapprove of creating math and science standards,”


8 posted on 05/23/2007 3:11:14 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Now, what does this really mean? Are colleges, whose professors are tenured, annoyed that the intellectual num-nuts they receive are too under-educated to understand the indoctrination they are receiving?


9 posted on 05/23/2007 3:18:08 PM PDT by MarkT
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Hundreds of them will be academically unprepared when they get there.

They will, however, be fully prepared to march in the streets and tell us how the world should be run.

12 posted on 05/23/2007 3:38:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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Educators say the need for remedial work is fueled largely by a lack of communication between high schools and colleges about what’s important to know.

Like English, Math, Composition, Spelling, History, Geography..ad infinitum. They are adept at condoming cucumbers however so they can opt out of that one and go directly to the "sex".

15 posted on 05/23/2007 4:19:27 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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These kids were found to be academically prepared for the U of Colorado. (sarc)
17 posted on 05/23/2007 5:01:00 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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They received their feel good diplomas....hope they learned to say

“Do you want to Super Size that?” and how to press Menu Item #4 on the register during their four years of HS.


18 posted on 05/23/2007 5:03:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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Hundreds of them will be academically unprepared when they get there.

Care to restate that statement Brian?

37 posted on 05/24/2007 7:16:48 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Don't blame me, I voted for Hatch.)
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This just proves that not everyone should go to college. Why everyone makes it the best option is amazing. The baby boomers who destroyed education and everything else in the country at least had one thing right and that is they realized that not everyone needed to go to college to be successful. Now as parents, they are forcing their kids to go to college. What idiots!!!! We Generation X’ers have so much work to do to fix the country!!!


49 posted on 05/25/2007 2:13:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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Hundreds of them will be academically unprepared when they get there.


54 posted on 05/25/2007 5:36:04 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 3 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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This whole article just begs the question: should all the students go to college in the first place? My opinion as a high school teacher is that the results demonstrate that 61% of the general high school population should not, and 20% of the “elite” populatioh should not. We are a system stuck on stupid.


57 posted on 05/25/2007 5:40:01 AM PDT by Chaguito
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Something odd in the full article.

It seems that the students with average grades in average classes are the ones needing the most help!

Thank you, Captain Obvious!

The ones I teach on a daily basis are the ones who are not necessarily college material, but vocational prep students. The ones who will work on your car, change oil, dig ditches, etc. The ones you will need more frequently than not. Sorry, but I don’t need a physician every day, but I do need a road to drive on since I do drive every day.

That said, take for instance, my sister, who graduated 3rd in her class and won a FULL RIDE scholarship to the top pubic research school in the state. She will not need remediation, but the kids who have squeaked by with C grades in regular classes may, simply because they do not have what it takes. Bad thing? No, it is what it is.

As far as the homeschool bunch: again, I am 100% for you. You have a right to do what is best for you and your child. More power to you and yours for what ever reason you decide. If your children excel in college from a homeschool curriculum, I salute you, and certainly do not see a point in belittling you for choices you make given a situation I know nothing about.

Again, as one of my aces in the hole, the young man on a thread post here recently, born to a crack mother, who was raised in foster care, public schools and is now *suprise!* a lawyer, working against the same people he was born into. What chances would he had had there been no public school for him? Would he been able to achieve such results? Dunno.


66 posted on 05/25/2007 7:46:08 AM PDT by shag377 (Do not mistake silence for intimidation)
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And, some say, high school should be more rigorous.

But wouldn't that lead to exceptionalism, and some students feeling left out just because they were stupid?

67 posted on 05/25/2007 7:54:28 AM PDT by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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This is one of the reasons why community colleges are popular. After twelve years of public school, diploma in hand, students go to college without the ability to write a complete sentence or complete equations beyond plus, minus, and a little multiplication.


73 posted on 05/25/2007 8:40:06 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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The problem's simple, really. We've tossed away real standards. If its "hard", its out. And our kids simply have no discipline, because their parents have no discipline. Oh, and too many people are going to too many colleges. College isn't for everyone, and trying to make it so just makes a college education meaningless.
82 posted on 05/25/2007 9:32:22 AM PDT by DesScorp
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I had a public education, and I was prepared to enter college. All you have to do is study hard in high school, get admitted to college, and study hard again.

I think these sensationalistic news stories exist only to absolve students of their own lack of academic ambition. Not to mention the parents who didn't push them to excel. Nah, let's just blame the teachers. Makes for better sloganeering.
94 posted on 05/25/2007 1:49:27 PM PDT by mysterio
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