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Mary Cheney Gives Birth to Baby Boy
WashPost ^ | Wednesday, May 23, 2007; 5:36 PM | Staff

Posted on 05/23/2007 2:50:09 PM PDT by Esther Ruth

Mary Cheney Gives Birth to Baby Boy

By Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts

Washington Post Staff Writers

Wednesday, May 23, 2007; 5:36 PM

Mary Cheney gave birth today to perhaps the most anticipated baby in contemporary U.S. politics -- her first child, Samuel David Cheney, whom she will raise with her longtime partner Heather Poe.

The 8-pound, 6-ounce boy is the sixth grandchild for Dick Cheney.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: babyboy; cheney; childabuse; homosexualagenda; liberalvalues; libswinculturewars; wherearethesocons
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To: ahayes

I think you are right about lesbian relationships lasting longer than gay mens’ but it still doesn’t make it right. There is more domestic abuse in lesbian relationships than the normal average. Women tend to be very jealous not only of other women but the fear that they are going to lose their partner to a man so its a double whammy.


501 posted on 05/24/2007 8:03:54 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: i_dont_chat

Not sure where you get your statistics on the longevity of lesbian relationships.

Marriages between man and woman are certainly nothing to brag about with respect to longevity.

Let’s face it... the institution of marriage and it’s “commitment” is not what it once was.


502 posted on 05/24/2007 8:07:06 AM PDT by zwerni (it's the end of the world as we know it...)
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To: cajungirl
To me all newborns look like Winston Churchill!
504 posted on 05/24/2007 8:12:56 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: beckysueb

I live in one of the most “gay” areas of one of the “gayest” states in the union. My kids are just fine and very heterosexual (which, quite frankly, has kept me sleepless during some of the high school years!)

The stuff you are referencing happens mostly in really left wing private schools. I know it isnt happening in our school system. (And everything is local, isn’t it?)

Gay pride parades are not representative of the entire gay population. They are a circus for immature idiots to walk around and show their six pack abs and sagging braless breasts. Many in the gay community cringe at the coverage of those things worse than you and I might.

I am raising my children to respect that people will put their private parts to use wherever they want. Some will follow a traditional path (a Man and a Woman.) Others will not. As long as they are consenting adults, it is not our business. (And gays are not all pedophiles, trying to intice the smooth little boys into their lairs.) I cannot change it. Neither can you.

I get frustrated with the intolerence that is posted on some of the forums. But when I see vitriole, hate, and biblical quotations I have to check and see if I have mistakenly logged into my Taliban forum.


505 posted on 05/24/2007 8:17:20 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: TChris
It appears your reference sites pertain more to the divorced or 'single' parent household. Such is not the case for Samuel David Cheney. He will be raised in an economically stable environment with two loving, caring parents. That they are of the same gender is not relevant.

I used to work in an environment where I saw all types of families walk through the door. I can say with all honesty, the children whose parents were gay or lesbian were far more well behaved, polite and seemingly intelligent. I saw the 'nuclear' families whose children were spoiled, indulged, boisterous, impolite beyond the pale and were allowed to run wild while there parents ignored their abhorrent behavior. I never witnessed that with the gay families.

There are many sites on the web that say studies find that children with gay or lesbian parents are well adjusted and normal. Here is one: The kids are all right

506 posted on 05/24/2007 8:18:18 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: Vermont Lt; beckysueb
...when I see vitriole, hate, and biblical quotations I have to check and see if I have mistakenly logged into my Taliban forum.

It's not the Taliban. It's just a bunch of immature people with strange priorities. 500 posts and counting. Good lord.

507 posted on 05/24/2007 8:25:59 AM PDT by EveningStar (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/)
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To: IIntense

The comment was that single persons should not raise children “period.” By your very statement you added a caveat onto the “period,” which renders the initial statement false. Thank you for proving my point.


508 posted on 05/24/2007 8:31:24 AM PDT by cammie
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To: EveningStar
500 posts and counting. Good lord.

No wonder we have a shortage of qualified candidates willing to run for public office. I can't imagine if my family was ever put under a global microscope. It's one thing if the Mary Cheney had done something illegal...but this is ridiculous.

509 posted on 05/24/2007 8:32:54 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: beckysueb
Just the fact that homos have to jump through hoops to have a child should show them what they are doing is not the natural order of things. A whole lot of heteros jump through those hoops as well.
510 posted on 05/24/2007 8:34:34 AM PDT by cammie
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To: Jen's Mom
It appears your reference sites pertain more to the divorced or 'single' parent household.

There is no difference. The effects are due to the absence of a father in the home. The reason for that absence is irrelevant to the child.

That they are of the same gender is not relevant.

That's simply not true.

There's no magic in the number of "moms" in a child's life. It's the question of whether there are both mother and father, a male and a female parent, in a child's life that makes the difference. The research clearly indicates that, though you'd like to reinterpret the findings.

You can dream that the consequences of growing up fatherless are eliminated by simply adding a second "mom", but it's just not true.

I have no hatred toward gays and lesbians. But their choices have consequences attached to them, and many of those consequences are paid for by children.

511 posted on 05/24/2007 8:38:08 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: beckysueb

I think jealousy may be one cause, but I also think lesbians have much more stressful lives than heterosexual women. They may be alienated from their families, society in general doesn’t acknowledge their relationships with the same sort of validation heterosexual couples get, and they cannot have children without going to a good deal of trouble. Once they do have kids, the child is only considered as belonging to one parent unless they arrange an adoption to make them both legal parents. As their children grow up I’m sure they worry about their children a great deal. We take a lot of things for granted that lesbian couples cannot.

There are probably additional sex differences factoring into it, like women’s tendency to become very dependent on their partners, so while a man might leave if his female partner abuses him (again, the definition of abuse is often very wide, it’s said 1/4 to 1/3 of heterosexual relationships are abusive) he is more likely to get fed up and walk out, while a woman might be more likely to stay with her abusive partner.

Again, domestic abuse in some lesbian relationships doesn’t make lesbian relationships wrong in general.


512 posted on 05/24/2007 8:43:31 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: TChris
There is no difference. The effects are due to the absence of a father in the home. The reason for that absence is irrelevant to the child.

This is inaccurate, home where the father is gone because of death do not have the same problems as homes in which the father is gone because the mom has multiple sequential boyfriends.

513 posted on 05/24/2007 8:45:51 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: beckysueb
They are 1 man and 1 woman and they are married. Just the way God intended.

God intended us to "be fruitful and multiply." Mary Cheney has done that. Bob and Elizabeth Dole haven't. Where's the outrage?

You also said:
He would tell them they could be forgiven but only if they turn from their gay lifestyle which He calls an abomination.

He does? Where in the Bible does Jesus, Himself, say anything homosexuality at all? You'd think that if it was an abomination, he'd mention it at least once. He does spend a lot of time talking about not judging others. Maybe you have a different Bible than I do.
514 posted on 05/24/2007 8:52:20 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Vermont Lt

BTW, that’s an excellent post.


515 posted on 05/24/2007 8:53:43 AM PDT by EveningStar (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/)
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To: beckysueb
I disagree with you. I think homosexuality is a choice. If it was not a choice, then God would not have condemned it.

Oh, well, you're in luck because the Bible never condemns lesbianism. It only condemns sex between men. I guess you are now free to choose. Would you choose to be a lesbian? I suspect that you can't.

If homosexuality is a choice, then God must have created us all as bisexuals. Do you believe that? I don't feel I have a choice. I'm a heterosexual. God made me that way, and I thank Him for it because that means I don't have to deal with hate from people like you.

You mention elsewhere that you were beaten by your husband for 21 years. That's was terrible and no one deserves that. However, you did divorce him, and I'm afraid that the Bible condemns divorce as harshly as homosexuality.

Who are you angry at, really?
516 posted on 05/24/2007 8:58:36 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Mr. Know It All
Where in the Bible does Jesus, Himself, say anything homosexuality at all?

Right next to his words on child molestation.

517 posted on 05/24/2007 9:06:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Mr. Know It All; beckysueb

1 Corinthians 7

Principles of Marriage

1 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband.


518 posted on 05/24/2007 9:14:28 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: beckysueb
I don’t think homosexuality is a sin or immoral. Might ought to read your bible. If you have one.

This question could be posed to any number of posters but I'll ask you: Why is it that only gay people are condemned in this fiery, hateful fashion when many other sinners get a pass? For instance, why isn't there the same outrage when, say, a Hindu couple bring a child into the world. The First Commandment says to have no other Gods before him, yet Hindu have other gods.

Aren't the Hindu couple raising their child in an immoral -- according to the 10 Commandments -- way?

I don't mean this post as a joke -- I've just always been confused about why gays are singled out when there are millions of Americans who reject the Bible.

519 posted on 05/24/2007 9:14:49 AM PDT by Millers Cave
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To: beckysueb
What a stupid comparison.

Why is that? Aren't eyeglasses against nature? Maybe you can explain to me the difference.

520 posted on 05/24/2007 9:17:45 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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