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Live Thread: Senate Immigration/Amnesty Debate, 5/23/05 (Grassley Amendment, Etc.)
The United States Senate (via C-Span 2) and my own peabrain | 5/23/07 | truthkeeper

Posted on 05/23/2007 8:21:52 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Hi Folks.

In an effort to douse disinfectant on this debate, I'll try to post a daily thread. The details of this garbage legislation, once uncovered, are mind-boggling. I'm sure the elites would much prefer we not know or discuss them.

So far the Grassley Amendment is being discussed. This amendment would dump the judicial review/appeal process of a revoked visa (in the current and new law) and make the process similar to that of a denied visa. Inotherwords, GO HOME.

Grassley pointed out that under this legislation, even terrorists can appeal a revoked visa. His argument thus far is being countered by Kennedy and Menendez, D of New Jersey. He's currently droning on and on right now...nation of immigrants...family values don't end at the Rio Grande...jobs Americans won't do...

Get the picture?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; legislation; senate
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To: spectre

I hope we are watching a meltdown of the pro-amnesty senators!


61 posted on 05/23/2007 2:17:39 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: All

Cubicle bound. What’s going on this afternoon at hearings?


62 posted on 05/23/2007 2:22:04 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Kimberly GG

“Where are all the anti-illegal anti-amnesty Lawmakers....they’re going to blow this!”

Don’t forget, the anti-illegal anti-amnesty lawmakers don’t think that we are stupid like McCain and Kennedey, et al do!!


63 posted on 05/23/2007 2:24:51 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: truthkeeper
When I came home.....around 2:30ish, they were voting on the Bingaman (Dem.,New Mexico) admendment....

..however, when they did the role call, I clearly heard..."Grassley, aye"....

..so now I'm confused.

I thought the Bingaman admentment countered the Grassley amendment?????

64 posted on 05/23/2007 2:26:20 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: acoulterfan; All

Who did he say was up next?

Somebody else to preach to their choir?


65 posted on 05/23/2007 2:26:51 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Guenevere

Poor Grassley!

Did you just hear that they want to present an unrelated matter? What a joke!


66 posted on 05/23/2007 2:29:40 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: katieanna
On another note, the Wall St. Journal reports that the Arizona Rep. Party has taken the unprecedented step of making public statements against Bush, McCain and Kyl. The Chairman will appear on Brit Hume and Hardball tonight. He is calling for other state GOP party heads to follow his lead. The WSJ also reported that Kyl is getting so much heat that he ‘could’ depart the ‘coalition’ of senators that crafted this thing, which the Journal (hopefully rightly) suggests that the whole thing would crumble then.

Let's put the heat on Kyl!

67 posted on 05/23/2007 2:31:46 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Kimberly GG

Don’t forget also that Sessions has threatened to filibuster and I believe Vitter also. A single senator has power to halt legislation...thank good Lord


68 posted on 05/23/2007 2:32:02 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna

Looks like Alexander is doing just that.


69 posted on 05/23/2007 2:33:06 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: katieanna

So, does that mean we just have to listen to them toot their horns, tweaking this to their liking until the vote on the whole thing happens and then Sessions can filibuster?


70 posted on 05/23/2007 2:35:44 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: acoulterfan

“Looks like Alexander is doing just that.”

Doing what, dear? What? Halting the legislation???


71 posted on 05/23/2007 2:37:27 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: Kimberly GG

Well, here’s the thing about this legislation. Right now so many amendments are being offered, nobody knows what the final bill will look like. It may look nothing at all like the original. I would imagine a senator would let all the amendments go and see what the final bill looks like before filibustering.


72 posted on 05/23/2007 2:39:27 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: SE Mom
What's going on? Most of the Senators talking have been taken over by Aliens..

sw

73 posted on 05/23/2007 2:40:35 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (..._ _ _...)
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To: katieanna
They can't agree on the amendments..either.

sw

74 posted on 05/23/2007 2:42:06 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (..._ _ _...)
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To: spectre

I think a major “regroup” is in process.


75 posted on 05/23/2007 2:44:46 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Guenevere
I had to run out a bit this afternoon so I've gotten a bit lost. When I turned the tv back on I heard LaMar Alexander talking about Internet taxes, and later Tom Harkin babbling about Guantanamo Bay.

So is the immigration debate over for today? Don't forget people, I'll try to put up a thread every day as long as this goes on. Check in if you can.

76 posted on 05/23/2007 2:45:26 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: spectre

Funny you should say that- I was reading Michelle Malkin’s piece today- and thought, ok ...we’re REALLY in the Twilight Zone. WTH.

I’m off for a little bit- am going to try and catch up..


77 posted on 05/23/2007 2:50:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: truthkeeper
It's anyone's guess what is happening? Maybe the Mother Ship is coming to take them home...

The screen caption says something about making it a "crime to dig a tunnel under the US Border"..Beam them up now!

sw

78 posted on 05/23/2007 2:53:00 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (..._ _ _...)
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To: spectre

Everybody on the floor is sputtering!


79 posted on 05/23/2007 3:01:33 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan
They're discussing amendments to the amendments now.

They could keep doing this for a year, maybe two.

sw

80 posted on 05/23/2007 3:04:19 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (..._ _ _...)
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