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SHOOT COP PINNED IN CRASH CAR
NY POST ^
| 5/23/2007
| MURRAY WEISS; DAN MANGAN
Posted on 05/23/2007 7:24:31 AM PDT by wideawake
May 23, 2007 -- Officer Raphael Lora fatally shot a Bronx driver only after the man pulled his car door shut against the off-duty cop's body and began driving away - making Lora fear he would be run over and killed, sources told The Post.
"He thought the only way to stop the vehicle was to stop the guy," said a person familiar with Lora's account of shooting Fermin Arzu, 41, Friday.
The killing of Honduran immigrant Arzu remains the subject of pending NYPD and Bronx DA investigations.
Supporters claim that the shooting was justified because Lora, 37, was in imminent fear of death. But activists have called for the Manhattan Traffic Task Force cop to be disciplined and criminally charged in Arzu's death.
Lora's lawyer, Stuart London, declined to comment.
A father of one and Marine veteran of the first Gulf War, Lora is an eight-year department veteran who has no history of complaints at the Civilian Complaint Review Board.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; assclownreporter; hispanicrimal; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigration; mexicriminal; newyorkcity; nypd; openandshutcase; policeshooting; whatadrag
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I'm surprised that the usual contingent of FR cop-haters hasn't jumped all over this one.
Their usual allies - Al Sharpton and Co. - have gotten involved.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:24:33 AM PDT
by
wideawake
To: wideawake
Take an overt action against an armed cop, using a deadly instrument, and get shot. End of problem.
Semper Fi, Marine.
TC
Comment #3 Removed by Moderator
To: wideawake
Officer Raphael Lora fatally shot a Bronx driver only after the man pulled his car door shut against the off-duty cop's body and began driving away - making Lora fear he would be run over and killed, The officers fears seem completely founded to me. Assuming the forensics match his story, this should be an open and shut case.
4
posted on
05/23/2007 7:28:33 AM PDT
by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
To: wideawake
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:28:43 AM PDT
by
NRA1995
(Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
To: wideawake
What a@@-clown came up with that title?
Sheesh.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:30:16 AM PDT
by
roaddog727
(BullS##t does not get bridges built)
To: wideawake
But activists have called for the Manhattan Traffic Task Force cop to be disciplined and criminally charged in Arzu's death.
Somebody needs to pin down these "activists" as to their actual agenda...anarchy?
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:30:31 AM PDT
by
ErnBatavia
(...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: wideawake
Yesterday, Michael Hardy, a lawyer for Arzu's family, said Lora "should be arrested, bail should be set, and the criminal process should begin." Maybe driving drunk, crashing into things, and trying to drag a cop with his car was a bad idea, ya think?
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:30:44 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
To: wideawake
"FR cop-haters"huh? I thought we were generally supportive of Law Enforcement around here... except for the examples of misconduct.
That said, I have NO sympathy for a man who closes a door on a cop and attempts to drive away. What did he think was going to happen to the officer when he started moving his car? I think that action alone proves INTENT TO CAUSE BODILY HARM to the officer and he is justified to blast away.
Good shootin' too. I am glad a person who would injure a cop is off the streets for good.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:32:00 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
To: Pentagon Leatherneck
Word.
A little more background on the "victim" in this case.
Fermin Arzu's live-in girlfriend and mother of at least two of his 5 or more children had just gotten home that evening from the hospital - she had just had major surgery: a mastectomy.
So Arzu did what most good boyfriends would do - he went out drinking and gambling, leaving a woman recovering from surgery to watch small children by herself.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:32:40 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
To: wideawake
No one on FR hates cops. We were all brought up to admire and respect police officers.
A good may of us are afraid of cops, however and for good reason.
Hate is a strong word. It implies an active wish to do harm. No one here wants to hurt the police. All we want is for the police to do the job we pay them for, and to leave the law-abiding in peace.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:32:41 AM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: Mr. K
huh? I thought we were generally supportive of Law Enforcement around here... except for the examples of misconduct. There was a lot of anti-cop crowing about the completely justified shooting of Sean Bell.
Hundreds of posts about how evil the NYPD was - just disgusting stuff.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:34:48 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
To: wideawake
To: wideawake
It looks like justice has already been served. Time to MoveOn.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:35:48 AM PDT
by
SmithL
(si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: Pentagon Leatherneck
“Take an overt action against an armed cop, using a deadly instrument, and get shot. End of problem.
Semper Fi, Marine.”
Not said better anywhere!
Top petro sends
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:35:59 AM PDT
by
petro45acp
(SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! "On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" By David Grossman)
To: Pentagon Leatherneck
It's interesting how the media keeps referring to Arzu as "unarmed". He clearly wasn't, and if one is to believe this article, he was using his weapon (auto) to threaten the cop's life.
Police do sometimes behave as thugs, and those who do are no better than the criminals they're supposed to bring to justice. But there's NOTHING here to make me believe -- or even suspect -- that this officer acted inappropriately.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:36:51 AM PDT
by
LIConFem
(Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
To: B-Chan; wideawake
No one on FR hates cops. We were all brought up to admire and respect police officers. A good may of us are afraid of cops, however and for good reason. Hate is a strong word. It implies an active wish to do harm. No one here wants to hurt the police. All we want is for the police to do the job we pay them for, and to leave the law-abiding in peace.
Thank you B-Chan for setting the Drama Queen right! Blackbird.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:39:02 AM PDT
by
BlackbirdSST
(Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
To: BlackbirdSST
You’re the only queen here, as far as I can tell.
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posted on
05/23/2007 7:40:45 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
To: wideawake
The killing of Honduran immigrant Arzu remains the subject of pending NYPD and Bronx DA investigations. Don't illegal immigrants get ID's with their whole names on them?
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