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Tesla Roadster: No Gasoline, Plenty of Juice (Plug-in electric car goes 130mph)
ABC News ^ | May 14, 2007 | VICKI MABREY and ELY BROWN

Posted on 05/21/2007 4:16:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Eye of Unk
I wonder if it could be charged while in transit? like have a small trailer, just big enough for a portable generator like a 5kw Coleman with a small fuel tank, could it go cross country non stop?

Uh.........

Why not just have a car with a gas engine and avoid ALL the conversion ineffficiencies??

(Pull a tanker trailer behind you for non-stop stuff...)

81 posted on 05/22/2007 5:37:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

Ok I am driving gas/diesel car and run out of fuel, take can to nearest station get couple gallons.

What am I gonna due when I run out of battery power , go get 5 gallons of electricity from the local power station /LOL


82 posted on 05/22/2007 5:38:13 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Elsie

We’re talking about a vehicle that has a 200-mile range between overnight charges. A 100,000-mile warranty would be 500 days, a year and a half, it you drove it to its theoretical limit every single day,

Drive a conventional car 100K miles in 500 days, and I bet you’d have some significant repair and maintenance bills, too. Just the oil changes and tires would hit 5-digit dollar figures.


83 posted on 05/22/2007 5:38:14 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: goldfinch
Exploring other options will eventually lead to better technology.

We sure HOPE so, anyway!

Actually, we use what we do today because it is the CHEAPEST way to go. (And still have our OWN vehicle.)

84 posted on 05/22/2007 5:38:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P8riot

Wait!

Over there at the 2 o'clock position!

Is that a group of apes with legbones in their paws???

85 posted on 05/22/2007 5:42:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fred Nerks
....this vehicle should sell very well in Australia,

You really think so? At 100 bills a pop? My guess is, not so much. Best of the British, cobber.

86 posted on 05/22/2007 5:43:12 AM PDT by chimera
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If nuclear energy were supplying most or all of our electricity, I could see their point, but it’s not. Coal is where we get the lion’s share of our electric and it’s more polluting than gasoline and diesel.”

Sssshhhhhhh. . . . . It’s all about appearances, not substance.


87 posted on 05/22/2007 5:43:48 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Looks like a useless piece of crap to me. Two passengers, no room for luggage or groceries.


88 posted on 05/22/2007 5:44:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: ReignOfError
We’re talking about a vehicle that has a 200-mile range between overnight charges.

I have a few ratty old vehicles at my home, and ANY of them can go over 1200 miles in a day and they all have over 100k miles on them.

89 posted on 05/22/2007 5:46:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TChad

“Still, it is disconcerting that they are pitching the car to rich enviro-wacko liberals:”

Come on! Who else would be so stupid as to buy one at such a high price in the mistaken belief that you are actually accomplishing something good for the environment?


90 posted on 05/22/2007 5:47:46 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: keat

I’m a little over 6 feet tall so it probably wouldn’t be comfortable for me, but I think it is pretty comfortable for the average driver—the reviews I’ve seen haven’t given it negatives for that.

As to safety, I think it is probably safer than most vehicles on the road. The platform is based on a Lotus Elise.

All that said, IT IS NOT A PRACTICAL CAR. Neither is a Boxter or a Ferrari—the whole idea behind this first car is to create a car that competes in the sports car market. Anybody looking for a commuter car or to haul the groceries needs to look somewhere else. Everyone who complains about practicality needs to realize that this car isn’t trying to be practical. This is nothing but an indulgence item for those with lots of discretionary income.


91 posted on 05/22/2007 5:56:08 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: Elsie
I have a few ratty old vehicles at my home, and ANY of them can go over 1200 miles in a day and they all have over 100k miles on them.

That, in a nutshell, is the problem with rechargeable electric cars. Range. Internal combustion cars can basically run until the wheels fall off -- a four-seat car with four drivers in shifts, you can drive 24/7 indefinitely.

1200 miles in a day is a bit of a stretch -- that's a 50mph average for 24 straight hours, factoring in all stops. Sounds like a reality show. But 800-900 miles per day is not unreasonable.

Electric cars are in-town cars. Period. You wouldn't want to take one on vacation. They're not set up for a road trip. Unless there is a way you could pull off the highway and swap a fading battery pack for a fresh one, like you can a propane tank.

92 posted on 05/22/2007 6:08:34 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An interesting number I didn’t see is the value of a tank of electricity.


93 posted on 05/22/2007 6:12:39 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: Elsie

Although I applaud the technology and the fact it sticks it to the sandroaches its just a “status” car, like those stupid HUMMERS with conestoga wheels that couldn’t travel a foot in soft sand.
Personally I will not be impressed until they can make cross country big rigs that are able to NOT have to rely on a diesel engine that get at best 7 miles to the gallon. I operate a fleet of concrete mixers and our business is lagging right now because we have to add a fuel charge to our deliveries, more people are preferring to “do it yourself”.


94 posted on 05/22/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Fred Nerks

I like it.


95 posted on 05/22/2007 6:20:08 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coal is where we get the lion’s share of our electric and it’s more polluting than gasoline and diesel.

I don’t care about how the electricity is made..........

breaking free of the ME oil will be the most effective way to end terrorism.


96 posted on 05/22/2007 6:20:43 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Mike-o-Matic
"Most people hook it up to the drier circuit."

That's because the people who hooked it up to the wetter circuit only did so once ;-)

97 posted on 05/22/2007 6:21:18 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: ReignOfError; Elsie
I agree that range (and price) is the Achilles' Heel for these things. I can "recharge" my gasoline burner at the pump in five minutes. Better than hanging around for 3 1/2 hours recharging the Tesla (assuming you can find a charging station). Not the kind of thing you want to do on an extended road trip. At this point, it looks like an indulgence "niche" vehicle, a toy for the wealthy.

Then again, a lot of things started out that way. Until someone like Ford came along and put the automobile within reach of the average consumer, those were novelties as well. Infrastructure development (gas stations) followed the consumer demand based on expanded use of automobiles by private citizens.

98 posted on 05/22/2007 6:46:42 AM PDT by chimera
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To: goldfinch
Do you really think the internal combustion engine powered by fossil fuels will be the best solution for the future?

Yes, for quite awhile I think fossil fuel (if it is truly "fossil" fuel) will be as long as there is plenty of oil in the ground. Even if we run out of oil, (which we won't soon), synthetic fuels from coal or methane hydrates will probably be the most economical solution.

But it doesn't matter what you or I believe is in the future. We should have confidence that the market will provide the solution to any problems. Any "help" from the politicians in the form of mandates, subsidies or tax credits for haywire "alternative" fuel schemes will only make any things worse.

99 posted on 05/22/2007 7:37:10 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: ReignOfError
1200 miles in a day is a bit of a stretch -- that's a 50mph average for 24 straight hours, factoring in all stops.

I said THEY could; not me! ;^)

(Although, 40 some years ago, before Interstates: 4 guys, going on leave, from Denver to Pennsylvania straight thru...)

100 posted on 05/22/2007 10:10:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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