[goldstategop]

Atheists and secularists tried to define the universe as anthropogenic - that is, conceived by Man and created out of the subjectivity of his thought. There is nothing that exists outside of the human mind greater than can be conceived by it. In this view, God is wishful thinking, a device people invent to relieve themselves of the terrors of life, the fear of death and to explain that which they cannot rationally explain at the time. The materialist world view denies the universe is populated by a Supreme Intelligence and in the end it rests on the proposition we can confidently know all of reality and predict it down to the movement of an unseen atom. Of course, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle mocks this anthromorphic conceit. We don't know everything and even human nature itself is the greatest of all mysteries. How then can we say there is no God?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[antiRepublicrat]

Flip it around and you have the standard indoctrination techniques used by any world view, including Christianity.

in the end it rests on the proposition we can confidently know all of reality and predict it down to the movement of an unseen atom

No it doesn't. We are allowed to simply say "I don't know." We don't have to have an answer, and we don't have to know that there is someone (deity of your choice) who does have all the answers. We're comfortable not having all the answers. Science itself is tentative.

[streetpreacher]

“There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.”

[ndt]

What a weird jump he makes.

Step 1 "Think differently then us"
Step 2 "Promote your ideas"
Step 3 "Use the science to defend your ideas"

Jump....

Ahhh We're persecuted.

What the heck did I miss after step 3?

[GOP Poet]

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[Westbrook]

There was a time when an atheist’s testimony was inadmissable in an American courtroom.

After all, to whom would he give his oath or affirm that his testimony is true? (Quakers and Mennonites don’t take oaths, and are allowed to “affirm” their testimony under the watchful eyes of God their Father).

As for the antropogenic nature of the universe, this was right out of Satan’s promise to the disobedient Eve that “ye will be as Gods, knowing for yourselves good and evil.”

[syriacus]

Neat essay. Thanks for posting it. Interesting point he made — most scientists have no special expertise in theology, so why should we rely on their opinions about God?

[rbg81]

When you find an athiest scientist who claims that science conclusively “proves” there is not G-d, ask them: What exactly caused the Big Bang? Where did all the material for the universe come from in the first place? I am not one who takes the Bible literally, but (if anything) scientific theories about creation leave plenty of room to support the existence of G-d.

Also, whenever a scientist claims to have proven something remember this: You can prove anything if you make enough simplifying assumptions.

[TheBattman]

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[Hank Kerchief]

We don’t know everything and even human nature itself is the greatest of all mysteries. How then can we say there is a God?

If we cannot know everything about what we do see, how can one claim to know anything about what we cannot see?

Hank

[Quix]

Thanks.

Great article by a genuine Christian.

[Christopher Lincoln]

A few observations:

1. The religious have always "targeted" younger generations. They have no just complaint if atheists do the same.

2. The atheists are not alone in seeing science and religion as opposed. To borrow a phrase from William F. Buckley, religion (specifically Christianity) has repeatedly stood athwart the path of science yelling "Stop!".

3. When the atheist declares that religion is false, the believer must agree with respect to every religion but one. Would Mr. Norris care to estimate how many religions exist, have existed, or will exist, of which only one - at most one - can be true?

4. While science has made a persuasive case that the past of the universe is finite, that case also shows that the age of the universe is vastly greater than the theologians ever conceived. The claim that the latter have been proved right is ludicrous.

[ShadowAce]

The Church saw its greatest growth early on when it was illegal to be a Christian. Not only in numbers, but in the degree of faith in its members.

Make it illegal again and the Church will only grow stronger.

[visualops]

For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.

Priceless.

[tutstar]

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[tophat9000]

God can nether be proved or disproved by science so either position is an act of faith... at least the believers are honest in there position in saying there is in fact faith

[Lancey Howard]

Chuck Norris BUMP!!

[Fiddlstix]

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