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Don't Be Fooled (on this immigration bill) by Heather MacDonald
The Corner National Review ^ | 05/17 06:40 PM | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 05/18/2007 8:17:03 AM PDT by dennisw

Don't Be Fooled [Heather Mac Donald]

Republican supporters of the Senate’s latest amnesty bill are trying to distract voters by dangling before them the requirements for an illegal alien to become a citizen or purchase a green card. These requirements make this bill a tough, no-cave-in reform, proponents say, that responds to the public’s outrage over immigration law-breaking. Don’t be fooled. Prerequisites to citizenship or permanent residency status are irrelevant to whether this bill rewards law-breaking or will encourage more in the future. Its key feature is rather that illegal aliens, according to press reports, can immediately have their illegal status wiped away with a temporary-residency permit, available virtually upon demand. That’s it. The rest is noise. Whether or not one has to show English proficiency and a knowledge of civics to become a citizen is irrelevant from an illegal alien’s perspective; a minute proportion of illegal or even legal Mexican and Central American immigrants come here with the desire to become citizens. The naturalization rate among qualified Hispanics has traditionally been negligible compared to other national groups; it started rising only when Congress required citizenship to receive welfare benefits.

There is no ambiguity about the effects of amnesty. Everywhere they have been introduced—including in Europe—they have brought in their train a new flood of illegals. This latest bill will do the same.

05/17 06:40 PM


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; heathermcdonald; immigration
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1 posted on 05/18/2007 8:17:06 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Its key feature is rather that illegal aliens, according to press reports, can immediately have their illegal status wiped away with a temporary-residency permit, available virtually upon demand. That’s it. The rest is noise.

That's the money quote.

2 posted on 05/18/2007 8:19:05 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo; dennisw; LucyT

I recommend everyone login at numbersusa.com and BE HEARD!


3 posted on 05/18/2007 8:22:42 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: dennisw

DU has a REALLY interesting thread going on this. They are of two minds on it. Strangely, some of them agree with us.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2850589


4 posted on 05/18/2007 8:23:29 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Exactly and there is no law being violated to go after employers. They will probably issue a sticky pad of visas to all employers making them legal on the spot. Now I can hire you Pedro!


5 posted on 05/18/2007 8:23:43 AM PDT by doodad
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To: SeafoodGumbo

You get it!
Illegals don’t care about citizenship
They would like a green card. Hundreds of millions of foreigners would love to have a US green card
But even more than a Green card what they want is immediate legal status for financial reasons, job reasons they’ll get higher wages once legal and able to complain and file lawsuits. This immigration bill legalizes all these people immediately and whoever else can sneak in here in the next few years and get fraudulent documentation showing he has been living here


6 posted on 05/18/2007 8:26:33 AM PDT by dennisw ("Libertarianism is applied autism" - Steve Sailer)
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A note to the House: We are reading what has been proposed, and we understand how thoroughly irrational, senseless, and gutless it is. We see that it has been carefully crafted to give an appearance of resolute change... but that in reality it does absolutely nothing, and that the craftsmanship of trickery is both premeditated and deliberate. Any government official that supports it, including the President, brings shame upon themselves and upon this nation.

The Senate voted to make our country a weaker, more dangerous place. The Senate voted to take from those who obey the laws, and to give a reward to those who break them.

The senators who voted for this legislation voted anti-American. Period.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 8:28:01 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: doodad

Back in the late 90s I met with a group of INS agents. One of them said he was in “workplace enforcement.” I asked him what area he worked in, and he told me “California, Arizona and Nevada.” He was the ONLY INS agent assigned to workplace enforcement, in other words, employer enforcement, in those three states. I have no reason to believe it is any different now.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: 3AngelaD
DU has a REALLY interesting thread going on this. They are of two minds on it. Strangely, some of them agree with us.

The DUmmies were not really agreeing with us. they are simply worried that the issue will shoot the 'rats in the foot come election 2008.

9 posted on 05/18/2007 8:29:21 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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BUMP!


10 posted on 05/18/2007 8:30:35 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: 3AngelaD

Well, they count on the employers to “self-police” and of course report any violations. /dripping sarcasm


11 posted on 05/18/2007 8:30:51 AM PDT by doodad
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To: dennisw

This amnesty if far worse than the status quo, and that’s saying something.


12 posted on 05/18/2007 8:31:14 AM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Froufrou
Also highly recommend checking out this link:

STOP AMNESTY NOW!
13 posted on 05/18/2007 8:31:38 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: dennisw

Want to solve the illegal immigrant problem?

Simply make them all legal and the problem is solved.

Brilliant ! ! !


14 posted on 05/18/2007 8:32:17 AM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: Sans-Culotte

This is the kind of stuff I was talking about: “Immigrants traditionally vote Democrat by overwhelming numbers, so we can add another 12 - 20 million to our ranks, and kiss the GOP goodbye as they sprint to the dustbin of history.”


15 posted on 05/18/2007 8:32:57 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: dennisw

Learn Spanish.


16 posted on 05/18/2007 8:33:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: snowrip
What I would like to know is where is the money for all the new prisons going to come from. Because, that is what we will need..lots and lots of new prisons and law enforcement personnel
17 posted on 05/18/2007 8:33:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the solders and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: dennisw
Well, I for one am not fooled.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

18 posted on 05/18/2007 8:34:57 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: snowrip

Amen to that!


19 posted on 05/18/2007 8:34:59 AM PDT by Edgerunner (keep your powder dry...)
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To: dennisw
Honest question: Is this amnesty visa, or Z Visa, or whatever you call it, available for free upon request, or does the illegal have to pony up a $5,000 fine in order to get it?

Honest question, part two: Does anyone really expect an illegal to fork over $5,000 in cash just to get a Z Visa?

20 posted on 05/18/2007 8:36:30 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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