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Bush hails deal on immigration reform
Associated Press ^ | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

Posted on 05/17/2007 12:16:18 PM PDT by 300magnum

WASHINGTON - Key senators in both parties and the White House announced agreement Thursday on an immigration overhaul that would grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border.

The plan would create a temporary worker program to bring new arrivals to the U.S and a separate program to cover agricultural workers. Skills and education-level would for the first time be weighted over family connections in deciding whether future immigrants should get permanent legal status. New high-tech employment verification measures also would be instituted to ensure that workers are here legally.

The compromise came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with President Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.

Bush called it "a much-needed solution to the problem of illegal immigration in this country" and said, if approved, the proposal "delivers an immigration system that is secure, productive, orderly and fair."

"With this bipartisan agreement, I am confident leaders in Washington can have a serious, civil and conclusive debate so I can sign comprehensive reform into law this year," he said in a written statement. Bush planned to make remarks about the bill later Thursday at the White House.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, his party's lead negotiator on the deal, hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."

Anticipating criticism from conservatives, Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said, "It is not amnesty. This will restore the rule of law."

The accord sets the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., called the proposal a "starting point" for that debate, but added that it needs improvement.

"I have serious concerns about some aspects of this proposal, including the structure of the temporary worker program and undue limitations on family immigration," Reid said in a statement.

The key breakthrough came when negotiators struck a bargain on a so-called "point system" that prioritizes immigrants' education and skill level over family connections in deciding how to award green cards.

The immigration issue also divides both parties in the House, which isn't expected to act unless the Senate passes a bill first.

The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and — after paying fees and a $5,000 fine — ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of household would have to return to their home countries first.

They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.

A new temporary guest worker program would also have to wait until those so-called "triggers" had been activated.

Those workers would have to return home after work stints of two years, with little opportunity to gain permanent legal status or ever become U.S. citizens. They could renew their guest worker visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time.

Democrats had pressed instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S.

In perhaps the most hotly debated change, the proposed plan would shift from an immigration system primarily weighted toward family ties toward one with preferences for people with advanced degrees and sophisticated skills. Republicans have long sought such revisions, which they say are needed to end "chain migration" that harms the economy, while some Democrats and liberal groups say it's an unfair system that rips families apart.

Family connections alone would no longer be enough to qualify for a green card — except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens.

New limits would apply to U.S. citizens seeking to bring foreign-born parents into the country.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigrantlist; immigration; presidentejorge; treason
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To: Vigilanteman
Thanx, I think. lol
221 posted on 05/17/2007 4:11:52 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: RJL

.... and get ready for the next 30 million illegals as they begin tryouts for the next AMNESTY lottery.


222 posted on 05/17/2007 4:13:21 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: 300magnum

I’ve lost what little respect I had for Bush.
He has betrayed all of us. I am through defending him.
I’ll be glad to see him leave office.


223 posted on 05/17/2007 4:17:55 PM PDT by Riptides
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To: 300magnum

back stabbing Bush....I can’t wait till this POS is out of office.


224 posted on 05/17/2007 4:19:48 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: tsowellfan; All

Fred Thompson’s VOTING record on immigrants:

Voted in 1996 to continue chain migration
Sen. Fred Thompson in 1996 voted against the Simpson Amendment to S.1664. It was a vote in favor of a chain migration system that has been the primary reason for annual immigration levels snowballing from less than 300,000 in 1965 to around a million today. Sen. Thompson supported provisions that allow immigrants to send for their adult relatives. Then each of those relatives can send for their and their spouse’s adult relatives, creating a never-ending and ever-growing chain. Sen. Thompson voted in favor of a system of chain migration that has been the primary reason for annual immigration levels snowballing from less than 300,000 in 1965 to around a million today.

Voted for a foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud measures in 2000.
Sen. Fred Thompson voted for S.2045, the Abraham foreign worker bill to nearly triple the number of foreign high-tech workers. On the heels of the release of a GAO report finding no proof of a high-tech worker shortage and evidence of abuse in the H-1B program, Sen. Thompson voted for this foreign worker bill that contained no worker protections or anti-fraud measures.

Voted in committee against including worker safeguards in H-1B bill in 1998
Sen. Fred Thompson joined 9 of his Senate colleagues to keep employee safeguards from inclusion in S.1723. Two important goals: ensuring no American was laid off or displaced prior to hiring an H1B employee; and, that employers demonstrate they had previously taken timely and effective steps to hire a qualified American. 10 Senators helped defeat this amendment.

Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998
Sen. Fred Thompson had an opportunity to vote for a measure requiring U.S. firms to check a box on a form attesting that they had first sought an American worker for the job. Sen. Thompson voted against that, joining those who said the requirement would give government too much authority over corporations’ right to hire whomever they please from whatever country.

Voted to grant amnesty to close to one million illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba in 1997
Sen. Fred Thompson voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population.

In 1996, removed higher fines for businesses which hire illegal aliens
Sen. Fred Thompson, in committee consideration of S.1664 protected businesses from having to pay higher fines when they are caught hiring illegal aliens. Under the idea that current fines were not enough of a deterrent against businesses cutting their labor costs by hiring illegal aliens, the Senate immigration subcommittee approved higher fines. Various study commissions have found that the willingness of U.S. businesses to hire illegal aliens is the No. 1 incentive for foreign workers to become illegal aliens here. But Sen. Thompson voted with a 10-8 majority in the Judiciary Committee to remove the higher fines from the 1996 legislation against illegal immigration.

Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification in 1996
Sen. Fred Thompson voted IN FAVOR of the Abraham Amendment to S.1664. He was part of a coalition of pro-business conservatives and liberal civil libertarians who tried to use the amendment to kill the establishment of voluntary pilot programs in high-immigration states. The programs were intended to assist employers in verifying whether people they had just hired had the legal right to work in this country. Such verification is considered by many experts to be an essential tool for withdrawing the job magnet from illegal aliens. The verification system established by S.1664 did NOT involve an ID card. Rather it provided that when new workers wrote down their Social Security number on an application, employers could phone into a national verification system to help assure that the number was a real number and belonged to the person giving it. The Senate tabled the bill by a 54-46 vote.


I don’t give a damn what a politician SAYS about immigration. I care how they vote. President Bush, John McCain, and Fred Thompson can go on TV and make nice speeches all day about they are for “securing the borders”, and “ending illegal immigration”. Their voting says otherwise.

Let me know when Fred Thompson makes it clear he’d VETO this latest “compromise”.


225 posted on 05/17/2007 5:09:32 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi, we elected ROSKAM)
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To: 300magnum

I never thought I would think about impeachment. Where does Cheney stand on this?


226 posted on 05/17/2007 5:10:18 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: 300magnum
btt

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

227 posted on 05/17/2007 5:24:47 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: BillyBoy

I supported Amnesty in the 1980s and under Bush 41. I do NOT support it now because the government was suppose to fix the problem the other two times.


228 posted on 05/17/2007 6:28:41 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
"They never respond when you question their totalitarian authority. Give em a little power and they get all psycho."

We are a group of volunteers who spend a lot of personal time helping out here on Free Republic.

How do you spend your free time?

229 posted on 05/17/2007 11:50:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: peeps36
We vote for phony candidates who turn out to be no different...

My 24-year-old grandson said the same thing two years ago.

Those who value conservatism have allowed the liberals to run roughshod all over their values. Like it or not, we will have to copy the tactics of the left.

The time has come for nation-wide protests, "this is OUR country!" parades, and whatever else we need to do to stop the governments from arrogantly breaking our laws.

It's time to let Bush and Congress know that they alone are personally responsible to cover all expenses that illegal aliens incur in this country.

Taxpayers do not have that obligation.

230 posted on 05/18/2007 12:34:15 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: 300magnum

But what about all the innocent babies and married people that will be torn apart if immigration reform doesn’t happen?


232 posted on 05/18/2007 4:54:02 AM PDT by Faethe (Think of the Children)
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To: 300magnum

To my senators I would just say “MAKE MY DAY” come election day if you vote for this P.O.S.!!!
Everyone I KNOW is against this!
I couldn’t get through to Sen. Lindsey Graham’s office yesterday after trying 6 times so I’m going to his office in Mount Pleasant on monday afternoon PERSONALLY and rip them a new arsehole!

“This Bill will give Amnesty to 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens.
We will henceforth secure the border.
There will never be another amnesty Bill proposed after this one.”

Ted Kennedy, 1986


233 posted on 05/19/2007 6:51:44 AM PDT by popeye125
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To: Admin Moderator

well deserved slapdown bump :))


234 posted on 06/12/2007 6:12:44 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Cicero

Bump!!


235 posted on 06/28/2007 3:12:31 PM PDT by Shermy
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