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Guns Yesterday, Guns Today, Guns Forever? [Barf Alert]
Philly.com (Penn.) ^ | 5/16/07 | PETER DURANTINE

Posted on 05/17/2007 9:41:46 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

HAVE WE LOST our humanity?

When a troubled young man goes on a shooting spree, and kills 32 people, what we hear even louder than the gunfire is the sound of some people pushing an agenda to increase the number of Americans carrying guns.

Are chunks of metal that fire other pieces of metal for the sole purpose of maiming and killing that important to us that we are willing to sacrifice lives?

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Pennsylvania
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You have to hire a PI to get some contact info on this clown. I hate that.


21 posted on 05/17/2007 10:00:08 AM PDT by jilley
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To: jilley
You have to hire a PI to get some contact info on this clown. I hate that.

That just confirms the paranoia evident in the article. You can be 99% certain that he has Googled himself and will be monitoring this and other websites commenting on his article. He will want to keep an eye on the wacky gun-nuts that will be coming after him now. ~8-O

22 posted on 05/17/2007 10:08:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (Holding on to hope binds you to worldly concerns.)
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To: E Rocc

ROTFLOL!!


23 posted on 05/17/2007 10:10:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
History's despots - from Caesar to Saddam - were not really defeated by weapons, they lost to ideas. You can always take a gun away from someone - Hitler, Stalin and a whole raft of tyrants happily pried guns from their opponents' cold, dead hands.

odd, I seem to remember them taking away the guns BEFORE they started killing people. lib newhistory?
24 posted on 05/17/2007 10:13:57 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Are chunks of metal that fire other pieces of metal for the sole purpose of maiming and killing that important to us that we are willing to sacrifice lives?

The author should come up here to Canada if that's how he feels, we NEVER have gun violence. /sarc

25 posted on 05/17/2007 10:15:58 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: TigersEye; jilley
Here's his bio from a PR firm that he works for:

http://www.bellevuepr.com/bellevue-wholong-middle.html#pete

Peter Durantine, Senior Account Executive

Pete has more than two decades of experience as a journalist, last serving as a reporter and co-editor for Capitolwire.com, the first online news service in Pennsylvania providing coverage on government and politics. He helped to start and design the editorial content of this service, which has since become a model for state government and political reporting.

Before that, he was a statehouse reporter for the Associated Press in Harrisburg. Pete also has worked for a variety of newspapers during his 25-year journalism career, including the York Daily Record, the Washington Business Journal, the Times-Crescent/Calvert Independent in Maryland, and Roll Call in Washington D.C.

A native of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, Pete has done freelance writing for a number of publications, including Stateline.org, Harrisburg Magazine, Susquehanna Life Magazine, Central PA Magazine, Philadelphia Daily News, Wilmington News Journal, Harrisburg Patriot-News. He has a Bachelor of Arts in History from the University of Maryland and participated in the United States Army War College National Security Seminar in June 2005.

26 posted on 05/17/2007 10:25:30 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Somebody obviously left the looney bin unlocked last night. This person needs professional help....lots.


27 posted on 05/17/2007 10:30:44 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: dirtboy
That's quite an impressive resume ... for someone who turns logic, common sense and cause and effect on its head and presents the resulting cognitive dissonance as a serious think-piece article.

I guess I would have done better in life if I had tossed my brain in the trash can at the start and bleated my way to a career in journalism.

28 posted on 05/17/2007 10:36:14 AM PDT by TigersEye (Holding on to hope binds you to worldly concerns.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

“Guns Yesterday, Guns Today, Guns Forever?”

Yep.


29 posted on 05/17/2007 10:37:14 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Next time someone breaks in my house I’ll just go up to them and say “I have and IDEA, don’t steal from me and get a job”...

On second thought, too much effort, I’ll just snag the Walther...


30 posted on 05/17/2007 10:43:40 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: kiriath_jearim

“What you can’t take from someone is their mind. That’s why ideas, not weapons, are what tyrants fear the most. When Cambodian dictator Pol Pot seized power in the mid-1970s, he killed everyone who wore glasses.

To Pol Pot, people with glasses were readers and thus thinkers of ideas. His camps for re-educating the population were about teaching people not to think because to think would mean to formulate ideas that would undermine the dictatorship.”

However, Pol Pots communist minions did not kill millions with ideas. They killed with guns. Commie guns and minions, that can be countered with the arms of freemen and patriots. Those who would disarm us are no different than Pol Pots horde of crazed idealogues. They will slaughter those who disagree with the creation of their utopia. We cannot allow them to take away our last defense against their depradations.

Give to NRA, GOA and state Orgs. If we do not fight the utopians in the halls of congress, we will have to fight them elsewhere.


31 posted on 05/17/2007 10:45:09 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

On the other hand, one big reason the Japanese did not invade the U.S. during WW2 was because they knew that most homes were inhabited by armed citizens.

32 posted on 05/17/2007 11:04:22 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot (Nothing is so simple that it can't be done wrong.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million ‘educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.


Next?


Regards,
GtG


33 posted on 05/17/2007 11:05:03 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

The usual BS. If you don’t like the second amendment, then get congress to repeal it according to the machinery of repeal laid out in the constitution; otherwise, STFU.


34 posted on 05/17/2007 11:27:50 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

That’s better than the number of doctors that kill people every day through gross negligence alone.


35 posted on 05/17/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51
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To: kiriath_jearim

Some people are too invested in idiocy to be believed. You can only hope when people start shooting at you, he happens to be standing in front.


36 posted on 05/17/2007 11:39:28 AM PDT by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: All

For everyone’s education, I would like to point out that this guy is from Philadelphia. The rest of Pennsylvania is a big time pro gun state. Heck, here in Western Pa, the democratic politicians that we have would be considered republicans elsewhere. The majority of the democrats in this area are pro life and pro gun.

Just a sampling of Pa gun laws. It is a shall issue state. All you have to do is go to the country sherrif’s office, provide two witnesses to your character and $25 and wallah, you now can conceal carry. The permit is good for five years which I believe is the max any state has. The only place you can’t carry are airports and courthouses. However, the whole courthouse cannot be designated gun free. I believe they have to post signs and a metal detector that says you can’t carry your firearm beyond a certain point.

Open carry requires no permit and in rural areas, people do open carry.

What I’m saying is this, if we could just shred off the eastern half of this state and give it to New Jersey, we would be a solid conservative voting state. Please do not blame the rest of Pennsylvanians for Philly. We would like to give them away also.


37 posted on 05/17/2007 2:04:50 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Actually Harrisburg. (Googled it.) That said, he’s a fool.
What he fails to realize is that deterrence only occurs at the point where the criminal and his proposed victim come into contact. And if the proposed victim can’t defend himself, he becomes a victim, period.

One of the things that I notice is that gungrabbers don’t seem to have much of a problem giving away things that aren’t theirs. And I think that it’s really pathetic that you have people like this Durantine character who arrogates to himself decisions concerning the safety of other people when he doesn’t have to accept the consequences that come if he’s wrong.

Why do I suspect that his mother gave him mugger money instead of encouraging him to fight back,.........?


38 posted on 05/17/2007 4:06:36 PM PDT by Sandhawk56 (Show me a junkyard and I'll show you an arsenal,.........)
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To: dirtboy
History's despots - from Caesar to Saddam - were not really defeated by weapons, they lost to ideas. You can always take a gun away from someone - Hitler, Stalin and a whole raft of tyrants happily pried guns from their opponents' cold, dead hands.

Hitler was defeated by IDEAS?

I'm pretty sure the idea that defeated Caesar was "why don't a bunch of us stab him with knives?"

39 posted on 05/17/2007 5:35:46 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (He was a great patriot, a humanitarian, a loyal friend - provided, of course, that he really is dead)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Petey needs to change his Depends.


40 posted on 05/17/2007 5:37:34 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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