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Guns Yesterday, Guns Today, Guns Forever? [Barf Alert]
Philly.com (Penn.) ^ | 5/16/07 | PETER DURANTINE

Posted on 05/17/2007 9:41:46 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

HAVE WE LOST our humanity?

When a troubled young man goes on a shooting spree, and kills 32 people, what we hear even louder than the gunfire is the sound of some people pushing an agenda to increase the number of Americans carrying guns.

Are chunks of metal that fire other pieces of metal for the sole purpose of maiming and killing that important to us that we are willing to sacrifice lives?

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist
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1 posted on 05/17/2007 9:41:49 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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Are chunks of metal that fire other pieces of metal for the sole purpose of maiming and killing that important to us that we are willing to sacrifice lives?

Is he talking about automobiles?

2 posted on 05/17/2007 9:43:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Holding on to hope binds you to worldly concerns.)
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3 posted on 05/17/2007 9:43:31 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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only 32... wonder how many unborn were aborted yesterday.... betcha more than 32...


4 posted on 05/17/2007 9:46:26 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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My gawd, what an incredibly convulted, bass-ackwards exercise in "logic:"

Regardless of what anyone says, this nation was not forged by firearms and blood - it was formed on ideas. And ideas and ideals are what make great nations.

History's despots - from Caesar to Saddam - were not really defeated by weapons, they lost to ideas. You can always take a gun away from someone - Hitler, Stalin and a whole raft of tyrants happily pried guns from their opponents' cold, dead hands.

Hitler was defeated by IDEAS? No, he was defeated by millions of tons of weaponry. The Sovite Union was defeated by the US ARMS RACE.

What you can't take from someone is their mind. That's why ideas, not weapons, are what tyrants fear the most. When Cambodian dictator Pol Pot seized power in the mid-1970s, he killed everyone who wore glasses. To Pol Pot, people with glasses were readers and thus thinkers of ideas. His camps for re-educating the population were about teaching people not to think because to think would mean to formulate ideas that would undermine the dictatorship.

Tyrants seize private weapons. For this numbnuts to even raise Pol Pot as "proof" for his position is the height of absurdity. THAT'S WHAT our nation has always been about - and that's what the Constitution and Declaration of Independence are all about - ideas.

5 posted on 05/17/2007 9:47:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...

After the first two sentences why would I want to? The author is clinically insane.

6 posted on 05/17/2007 9:47:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (Holding on to hope binds you to worldly concerns.)
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Oh, it’s worth reading the entire thing, just to witness a new low in gun-grabber logic twisting.


7 posted on 05/17/2007 9:48:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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Are chunks of metal that fire other pieces of metal for the sole purpose of maiming and killing that important to us that we are willing to sacrifice lives?

Hey crybaby, ask yourself that same question when there's an unknown number of intruders in your house and your phone is out of reach...

8 posted on 05/17/2007 9:48:30 AM PDT by kromike
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It’s so much easier to ban guns, than to find and treat these disaffected people before they go ballistic. Simple solutions for simple minds...


9 posted on 05/17/2007 9:49:40 AM PDT by Edgerunner (keep your powder dry...)
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Caesar was defeated by a weapon.

Just think if Caesar had banned all knifes, Brutus would have used a rope.

Liberals will never get that guns don't kill people, people kill people.

10 posted on 05/17/2007 9:51:34 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Or you’ve gotten the phone, called 911, and you’re waiting for a response while the barbarians are in your bedroom


11 posted on 05/17/2007 9:52:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Would Peter care to comment on serial rapists? We get a dose of these evil animals every few years. Would he care to comment about deaths involving ladders in residents across the country every year? How about vehicular deaths? Poisonings?

In his utopian world, there is a medal detector and armed police officer at every public and commercial building and scattered checkpoints around our cities. How else can you stop a nutcase intent on horrific crimes. Should training be required to purchase ant killer chemicals along with frequent surprise inspections in everyone’s homes to keep them safe.

Either you want to live in a free society that gives evil men the freedom to plot and scheme, or you want to be parented in a nanny fashion and have your behavior regulated for your own good.

I ask, how would he suggest we go about preventing someone from plotting and executing a killing spree unless you create a police state?

Liberal logic, I suppose.


12 posted on 05/17/2007 9:53:21 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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I will admit that the excerpts you posted exceeded my imagination.

(if nothing else insanity can be quite creative)

13 posted on 05/17/2007 9:53:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Holding on to hope binds you to worldly concerns.)
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I'm a 21 year old American, born and raised and I want to own a carry a gun. They could kiss my hairy white arse.
14 posted on 05/17/2007 9:53:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (I was opposed to Rudy in the mid 1990s when he took my fireworks away. I was but a little boy.)
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What a pile of ....


15 posted on 05/17/2007 9:53:50 AM PDT by Leg Olam (Four out of five voices in my head say, 'Go for it!')
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To: wastedyears

Own and carry****

*sign*


16 posted on 05/17/2007 9:54:12 AM PDT by wastedyears (I was opposed to Rudy in the mid 1990s when he took my fireworks away. I was but a little boy.)
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Chunks of metal that fire other pieces of metal for the purpose of maiming and killing are important to us so we can defend lives.


17 posted on 05/17/2007 9:54:46 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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This country was founded by men bearing muskets who knew how to shoot.


18 posted on 05/17/2007 9:55:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (I was opposed to Rudy in the mid 1990s when he took my fireworks away. I was but a little boy.)
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To: TigersEye

I couldn’t get passed the FIRST sentence and then I posted.


19 posted on 05/17/2007 9:56:39 AM PDT by wastedyears (I was opposed to Rudy in the mid 1990s when he took my fireworks away. I was but a little boy.)
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If the people of America really wanted firearm controlled like they are in Britain and Australia, then all that is need is a Constitutional Amendment. But since no one has ever called for one, or is there a grounds well of desire to eliminate firearms, then I would conclude that there is no desire on the part of the PEOPLE to regulate guns more than they already are.

Put up or shut up.

20 posted on 05/17/2007 9:58:15 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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