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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 - Columbia, SC 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread
May 15, 2007

Posted on 05/15/2007 4:25:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 – Columbia, South Carolina 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Watch live coverage of the First-in-the-South Republican Party Presidential Candidate debate on FOX News Channel and FOXNews.com on Tuesday, May 15, at 9 p.m. EDT (6 p.m. PDT).

The 90-minute debate will air from 9 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. ET (6 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.) and will be moderated by "Special Report" anchor Brit Hume. Questions will be posed by two panelists — "FOX News Sunday" host Chris Wallace and White House correspondent Wendell Goler.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brithume; brownback; chriswallace; columbia; debate; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; foxnews; gilmore; giuliani; huckabee; hunter; jimgilmore; johnmccain; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; paul; presidentialdebate; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; sambrownback; southcarolina; tancredo; thompson; tommythompson; tomtancredo; wendellgoler
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To: patriciaruth

Well you sold me with that argument. LOL.

With all respect to your Mom, Rudy’s not Mr. Nice Guy either, neither is/was Bill Clinton or the Mrs..
Truman was a real SOB.


2,661 posted on 05/15/2007 10:13:35 PM PDT by HonestConservative (If Conservatism is dead, why are the candidates claiming to be one.Hunter/Thompson08)
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To: omnivore
EV is targeting Mitt. The host of FR, JimRob himself, is fairly anti-Mitt. On other threads he has mentioned Mitt as the number two priority for demotion out of the top-tier, after Giuliani. So Mitt abuse is okay on FR threads, apparently.

And I agree with JR 100%. Free Republic isn't politicsoverprinciples.com. If you want that, I hear Hugh Hewitt has a blog...
2,662 posted on 05/15/2007 10:14:00 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: patriciaruth

He’s on the road to no ratings if he keeps sucking up to the likes of Tim Russert like he did today.


2,663 posted on 05/15/2007 10:14:37 PM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
The Declaration of Independence, in the founding paragraph of our free republic, says this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...

The very purpose of Government is to protect the right to life.

The Preamble to the U.S. Constitution, its very basis, which declares its overall purpose, says this:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The founders, the drafters of the Constitution, made it clear that one of the document's primary purposes was to secure the Blessings of Liberty, not just for themselves, but for all of those who were yet to come - not only the unborn, but the as yet unconceived. [After all, that is what "posterity" means.]

Your argument is silly. You might as well claim that a state has the right to outlaw freedom of speech, or freedom of religious expression, or the right to peacable assembly, or the right to keep and bear arms, etc.

Lastly, the right to live is preemminent. Without the right to live, no person ever has a chance to enjoy any other right.

2,664 posted on 05/15/2007 10:14:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
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To: omnivore
EV is targeting Mitt.

FReepers have always targeted liberals.

2,665 posted on 05/15/2007 10:15:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
Which serve to hold the government taking of life to due process limits, not the citizens. The Constitution does not criminalize murder, that is left to the states.

The states cannot violate the US Constitution. If the SCOTUS decided that the Constitution guaranteed the right to life of unborn children, the states could not allow abortion, to do so would be unconstitutional. The states' laws and actions are appealable to the Federal Courts and, ultimately, SCOTUS.

2,666 posted on 05/15/2007 10:16:02 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: patriciaruth
My mother was in Hunter’s district. She says he’s mean. That means he doesn’t have a chance of winning.

Oooh, good point. He's so mean that he only won his district by a 2-1 margin over his Democrat opponent. I'll take some of that kind of "mean", thank you very much.
2,667 posted on 05/15/2007 10:16:13 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Antoninus

Yep.

HH loves Mitt and was absolutely disgraceful to the wonderful TT live on his radio show.

Romney’s position on II, worries me severly, I doubt that he is far from Rudy or McCain.


2,668 posted on 05/15/2007 10:16:28 PM PDT by HonestConservative (If Conservatism is dead, why are the candidates claiming to be one.Hunter/Thompson08)
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To: HonestConservative

The good news is thier folks suck even more.
The dem field is sooo thin


2,669 posted on 05/15/2007 10:16:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Antoninus

Touche’!


2,670 posted on 05/15/2007 10:16:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
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To: James W. Fannin

Thanks. Nice that some folks appreciate a bit of dissent on the most pressing issue of the day. And I don’t necessarily agree 100% with Paul—you can read as much on my freeper homepage, as I supported going into Iraq, though reservedly and for different reasons than most—but I do think Paul was right about making the ‘war on terror’ into one that can end.


2,671 posted on 05/15/2007 10:17:16 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If ‘He can win,’ is your first defense, obviously, that’s his one plus--not his conservatism.)
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To: omnivore

I think JimRob had other candidates in mind for 2000 as well.

However, if Romney pulls off the nomination, he will be an improvement on Rudy and an improvement on McCain, and definitely much better than Hillary or Obama.

So, he may mirror his 2000 pragmatism and go with the better candidate in the general election, even if his preferred second tier candidate doesn’t get the nomination.

OTOH, we have not had 8 years of Clinton to galvanize us like we did in 2000. And that may be our undoing.

Having half a cake, we got greedy and wanted it all in 2006 and ended up with none.


2,672 posted on 05/15/2007 10:17:38 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: omnivore

I noticed David Letterman has taken up regular Mitt-bashing. He must feel Mitt has the best chance of bringing in a GOP win in ‘08.

Personally, I like Duncan Hunter’s views. Too bad he seems to be a long shot at this point.


2,673 posted on 05/15/2007 10:17:41 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: patriciaruth
My mother was in Hunter’s district. She says he’s mean.

That means he doesn’t have a chance of winning.

"Well, my momma says alligators is ornery cuz they got all them teeth and no toothbrush".

2,674 posted on 05/15/2007 10:19:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The replacement? That would be Senator Bob Corker... You are in TN so you will be estatic to have the chance to vote for FRed Thompson again...

No. And I'll explain why. He let John Glenn and the DEMs take over the hearings. Remember this? "Let the chips fall where they may" That was Fred Thompson. Remember this? "Don't name names" Who was that man? Remember "NOT GUILTY" in the senate trial?

Our state owes Fred gratitude for taking down Pardon Me Ray. Perhaps that is what disappoints me with Fred. I knew what he was capable of and his performance in his second term was very lacking. He needs to stay in the private sector. He's a great lawyer and actor. He's a lousy politician and his record says so. I can't support him anymore than I would Ted Stevens.

2,675 posted on 05/15/2007 10:19:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: Chgogal

Someone rewrote it.

Last time I heard it played, they left out the halls of Montezuma.


2,676 posted on 05/15/2007 10:20:36 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: VegasBaby

” Are you more pro-2nd Amendment than the NRA? Just curious.”

Yes


2,677 posted on 05/15/2007 10:20:38 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Mariebl
Personally, I'm getting bored with Fred, simply because he's not running.

Personally I'm getting bored because this whole campaign thing starts earlier and earlier every election. In the old days, the campaign started around February of the election year, with the primaries coming in June and the final push coming in September through November. They are now starting these silly campaigns almost two years before the general election. That is insane.

Thompson is smart to start late. The other candidates are slowly committing suicide by their gaffs and their miscalculations. By the time Thompson starts his election engine, the other candidates will be out of gas.

2,678 posted on 05/15/2007 10:21:31 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: mylife

Fred doesn’t look well or energetic to me.

I’m not sure he’s up to a run.


2,679 posted on 05/15/2007 10:21:57 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: cva66snipe

Great post!


2,680 posted on 05/15/2007 10:22:32 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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