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SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION

Posted on 05/14/2007 8:36:11 PM PDT by debbieargel

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To: StarCMC; RedRover; jazusamo; Brad's Gramma; The Spirit Of Allegiance
"StarCMC" said --

And that, my friends, is how people excuse themselves from doing anything. Thank God everyone's not like this poster.

No excuses there.

It's an absolute recognition of the fact that when you're not in the majority and the majority vote will count, that your efforts are not going to be realized. You'll notice that my statement was "when public opinion shifts and it shows itself in elections". In other words, when it does shift you can't do anything about it. You may try to do something about the future, after that point in time, but there are some political analysts, in the Republican Party who say that they fear that it may put the Republicans so far down (politically speaking) that they won't recover for more than a decade or more. That's why many Republicans now are looking for a way to "get in front" of that shift that they see is coming.

What happens instead is simply a denial of reality. After denial comes anger. I expect the anger part will be happening about the time of the 2008 elections. We got a little sampling of that (i.e., the "anger" part) after the last Congressional elections. It's actually still evident from some posters and on some threads, even today. It hasn't quite dissapated yet.

It will be the same come 2008 and afterward.

Regards,
Star Traveler

61 posted on 05/15/2007 7:34:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler; Admin Moderator

You are disrupting this thread Star Traveler.

Don’t ever ping me or post to me again.


62 posted on 05/15/2007 7:36:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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"jazusamo" said --

You are disrupting this thread Star Traveler. Don’t ever ping me or post to me again.

Well, sorry to hear that, so I just posted to myself, instead (and the others who were included in that last reply to me (courtesy of StarCMC).

And you'll notice, that I was doing so (in putting your name in there), because one of the other posters included you. Therefore what one does is "as a courtesy" to another poster to include him in the "conversation" that someone else brought you in on. Perhaps you should also notify that other person that they should not have included you in on that last posting.

But, even so, I didn't know that there were so many sensitive people regarding these kinds of political discussions. But, apparently so. As you look through my posts, you will see that I've been rather mild and fairly even handed and have been "matter of fact" in describing things.

And you know..., this is an extremely relevant topic, considering that it's promoting a big shift in the public's mind and the fact that we had such a big shift in the last Congressional elections.

You'll notice that all along on my posts that I've always been a very strong advocate of the policy of getting rid of the enemy that comes from the religio-fanatical-governmental idealogy of Islam. They are truly the enemy.

However, in discussing the policy shift that is coming about in our political landscape, that is doing nothing more than discussing reality. It would seem that in discussing this shifting political landscape and even how it's detrimental to our country's fight against the religio-fanatical-governmental idealogy of Islam -- it is simply more than some people can do. I don't know what to say about that. It absolutely needs to be discussed, because the political shift is happening right before our eyes.

Well, that's about it, so I'll get going once again...

Regards,
Star Traveler


63 posted on 05/15/2007 7:54:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: debbieargel

I’ll bump that. Waiting to hear from you!


64 posted on 05/17/2007 5:12:37 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: debbieargel; bnelson44; Eagles6; tgslTakoma; advance_copy; freema; deaconjim; RedRover; ...
"deaconjim" said --

It sounds like you’ve already surrendered. Fortunately, you are still in the minority.

Well, I know it's still hard for some people to separate out the idea of "support our troops" from the real-life political developments here in the States, but that's just the facts of the matter. We'll support our troops even when they are withdrawing from Iraq -- and withdrawing too soon, so that it will end up being a disaster for the U.S. policy over there.

The fact of the matter is that I'm not in the minority for recognizing that such a thing is coming down the pike. It surely is. And the quicker people get a hold of that idea of what is happening, the better it will be for them.

Surrender may not be an option -- but the fact of the matter is that it might not be your choice to make. And that's the big problem here...

Take a look at a post from Jim Robinson, below [item number 1 is corrected per Jim...]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1835379/posts?


The question after the election disaster of 2008 will be, which betrayal did in the GOP?

May 17, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/17/2007 3:07:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

1. The war [Failure to win the war of public opinion].
2. Failure to secure the borders.
3. Amnesty.
4. McCain-Feingold.
5. Big government.
6. Big spending.
7. Abortion.
8. Gay marriage/gay agenda.
9. Gun control.
10. Failure to protect private property.
11. Failure to abide by the constitution.
12. Failure to enforce the law.
13. Corruption.
14. Too many RINOs.
15. Lack of spine.
16. Loss of testicles.
17. Failure to run conservative candidates.
18. Most of the above.
19. All of the above.
20. Other.

Regards,
Star Traveler

65 posted on 05/17/2007 11:44:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: freema

Things went very well this morning. I’m very happy I was able to participate. You can see the pics at Move America Forward. Thanks, Deb


66 posted on 05/18/2007 1:05:34 AM PDT by debbieargel ("It is above you. To serve God and Country is a privilege and not a right." (Derek Argel ))
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To: Star Traveler

Stop pinging me. And I doubt Debbie Argel wants to hear from you either.


67 posted on 05/18/2007 3:27:14 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: debbieargel; jazusamo; Just A Nobody

Great, Debbie! I’ll go over and look at the pics.


68 posted on 05/18/2007 3:29:12 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: Star Traveler

Nice list.


69 posted on 05/18/2007 5:52:12 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: RedRover

Hey, thanks!
I am so proud of brave Americans who show up for these events. Some hide behind the walls of the internet, and others really show their support. We were able to speak our message, and that is what is important to me. God bless those who came to support us.
Deb


70 posted on 05/18/2007 10:06:21 PM PDT by debbieargel ("It is above you. To serve God and Country is a privilege and not a right." (Derek Argel ))
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To: debbieargel

I’m on my way to Times Square right now to give a big shout out for the recruiters!

Thanks for all you do, Debs. You are an inspiration.


71 posted on 05/19/2007 7:46:54 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: debbieargel

Let Do Nothing Nancy know what I feel.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


72 posted on 05/19/2007 7:48:37 AM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists than they killed)
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