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Killer slain with officer's gun
Manchester Union Leader ^ | May 13, 2007 | Pat Grossmith

Posted on 05/13/2007 2:09:20 AM PDT by billorites

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To: tiger-one

It was Carl Drega. Up in Columbia. Just below Colebrook.


21 posted on 05/13/2007 4:01:26 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I know nothing of this Bode Miller but if he is what you say and he has money being what he is and if he wants blood then Floyd is going to trial and so is the local police department.
22 posted on 05/13/2007 4:03:20 AM PDT by madconserv (Jesus take the wheel- Dream ticket- Thompson\Hunter)
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To: billorites
One encounter between Kenney and McKay, multiple sources said, left Kenney with a broken jaw and resulted in a lawsuit. Bill Kenney, said the suit was dismissed because there were no witnesses to the alleged incident. "(McKay's) been after poor Liko ever since then," said Hugh McLean, whose wife, Jean, owns Floradale florist shop. "I suppose you can say he finally got him. Liko got him, too." Bill Kenney said the relationship between his nephew and McKay made a violent confrontation between the two almost inevitable. "My nephew is not the type of person to back down," he said. "He's been antagonized and provoked by (McKay) ever since (the broken jaw) incident, and, like I say, it came to a head." Bad blood between the pair was no secret in town.

From the article mentioned in # 13.

23 posted on 05/13/2007 4:07:44 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: tiger-one; philman_36
I wish the local cops were more active stopping the speeders around here. I live on a 25 mph street and people routinely flash through doing 45 mph.

The feeder street outside my subdivision is 45 mph and has a blind corner. Pull out and somebody doing 60+ flys around the corner and starts hitting the horn and flashing lights as they start riding your bumper.

I think the dead scumbag had a number of problems, all cured now but at the terrible loss of a LEO. To shoot a cop and then run over him. I don’t care what the provocation, that’s just wrong.

24 posted on 05/13/2007 4:07:52 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: madconserv

He’s the offspring of hippy parents and fits the image. I doubt if he has a lot of money. And his image was tarnished (rightfully so) after the ‘06 Olympics.


25 posted on 05/13/2007 4:09:13 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I hope you’re right because like Pete 570 said “To shoot a cop and then run over him. I don’t care what the provocation, that’s just wrong.”

I’m sure Floyd was trying to make a citizens arrest.

26 posted on 05/13/2007 4:18:26 AM PDT by madconserv (Jesus take the wheel- Dream ticket- Thompson\Hunter)
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To: PeteB570

“I live on a 25 mph street and people routinely flash through doing 45 mph.”

Speed bumps.

When I lived in Rochester,NY you could call the city and request they install speed bumps on your street. It only took a few residents asking to get the city to install them.


27 posted on 05/13/2007 4:19:51 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: tiger-one
I am sure the whole tape will be made public, after the investigation is completed.
Ah, a supposition. It could get sealed so that it's never released. How can you be "sure"?

Pulling people over for small traffic violations sometime leads to bigger crimes, but then you may know about that.
Drive by character assasination...how quaint, and predictable. Intimating that I would escalate the situation if I were to be pulled over 'cause I'm a criminal at heart?

Do you think we did not watch him?
Oh, I'm sure we did.

Now Phil I bet if some guy told you he had no problem killing you, you would demand the cops protect you, or would you kill him first?
Now, tiger-1, you're coloring the picture. I would have no problem killing you, or anyone else, if they were in the act of harming myself or others and I was in a position to stop it. I would expect that someone else in the same position would put me down. So see, I've got no problem with someone saying they had no problem killing me. A cop would say such a thing, wouldn't they? "I have no problem killing "whomever" if I caught them in the act of a crime endangering myself or others."
Would you like to "kill me" right now for being such a smartass (in your perceptions, of course)?
However, if you, or someone else, were to say straight out that they were going to kill me (see how the words shift the emphasis in how they're said) then that's another story.
As to police protection, you should be the first person to know that the proper course of events would be to put a restraining order out on the person making such a threat, not go out and kill them first. I would, however, take all precautions I thought necessary to protect myself from that person including arming myself, 'cause cops have no duty to protect me, that duty is mine! (or do I need to show you the court cases where that is shown?)
Could you be any more obtuse and condescending?

28 posted on 05/13/2007 4:21:17 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Hazcat

Nothing like getting the whole story, is there?


29 posted on 05/13/2007 4:23:18 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: billorites
Friday, when McKay refused to call in another officer, Kenney drove off. Rob Hayward, who said he talked with Macaulay, said Kenney drove off at a slow speed.

Pat Grossmith needs to find a new line of work, either that or sober up and put down the bong before attempting to keyboard.

30 posted on 05/13/2007 4:24:15 AM PDT by TADSLOS (W.T. Sherman had it right.)
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To: Phatboy
I can’t even get thru this article.

Yeah, it's no model of clarity.

Pat Grossmith, there are a lot of unemployed ink-stained wretches wandering around out there today. Better get your A-Game on.

31 posted on 05/13/2007 4:25:35 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PeteB570
I've got no problem enforcing speed limits. My solution is to pull the license for a short time after the same infraction 3 times running.
Fines seem like nothig more than extortion to me.
I think the dead scumbag had a number of problems, all cured now but at the terrible loss of a LEO.
Thanks for your opinion. Sounds like the cop had a few "problems" too. Or are you walking around with your blinders on?
I don’t care what the provocation, that’s just wrong.
May the chains that bind you rest lightly...
I hope you never run into a cop set on revenge instead of just "doing his job".
32 posted on 05/13/2007 4:34:20 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: billorites
What a mess.

You have that right. Was Cpl McKay following department policy in the stop? Pulling in front of the suspect's car, backing into the car and pushing it off of the road? Pepper spraying the occupants and then walking away? Not wearing a vest?

This was designed for disaster.

34 posted on 05/13/2007 4:55:24 AM PDT by csvset
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To: billorites
Another article, AP this time...

Officer, shooter 'had it in for each other'

36 posted on 05/13/2007 5:00:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: philman_36
Yes, it is my opinion that it is wrong to shoot cops.

I guess we’ll have to disagree on this issue.

There are many ways to handle “rogue cops” without killing them.

Every encounter I’ve had with an LEO I’ve been polite from the start, even when I was in the wrong. The LEO was polite, even when he gave me a ticket.

More people should try being polite, it works wonders.

37 posted on 05/13/2007 5:03:13 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: billorites
More on Kenney...

Kenney had 'rough upbringing' but was well liked

38 posted on 05/13/2007 5:03:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: philman_36

Which, of course, justifies Kenney shooting the officer dead (possibly in the back, but undrawn nonetheless) and then running over him with his car.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?

Regardless of the ‘long standing issues’ between the two, Kenney had been stopped justifiably.


39 posted on 05/13/2007 5:04:32 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: Phatboy

No problem. IMO 70% of the people reading this thread, and the other threads on it, won’t go any further than what they read at FR. Following links pays off. (and I didn’t have to register anywhere to do it!)


40 posted on 05/13/2007 5:05:09 AM PDT by philman_36
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