Posted on 05/12/2007 2:22:27 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
US Muslims Told Not to Pray for Non-Muslim VT Victims...
Liberal Arab Website Reports: Debate on Virginia Tech Muslims Students' Mailing List Concerning Permissibility of Praying for Mercy for Non-Muslim Victims
The liberal Arabic-language website Aafaq reports that a Muslim student set off a debate when she sent an email to the mailing list of a Muslim students' association (rabitat al-tullab al-muslimin) at Virginia Tech asking the students to pray that Allah have mercy on those killed and wounded in the shooting attack at the university.
According to Aafaq, the dean of student affairs at American International University, Abu Hamza Hijji, responded, writing that Allah the Most Merciful forbids praying for mercy for the non-Muslim dead, or even for the non-Muslim living, and that it is only permitted to pray that they be rightly guided. He added that what happened was a sad occurrence, but that does not give Muslims the right to transgress the laws of Allah the Most Merciful.
Aafaq reported that a student named Chris, a recent convert, did not agree, and wrote that he usually does not intervene in this kind of discussion, but that this time he had to say "no." He added that his German teacher, who was wounded in the shooting, is a good man, and that he was praying that he would not die. He said that he would pray for him and for his family, whether they are Muslims or not, and would pray for all those who suffered from this calamity. He expressed the view that religion must bring people together, and not drive them apart, and that the brotherhood of humanity takes precedence over brotherhood of religion or of state.
According to Aafaq, Hijji answered Chris, saying that there is no problem with praying that non-Muslims be kept safe and not be killed, if there is hope that they might be guided [to the right path]; but one cannot pray for the non-Muslim dead, since there is no chance of their being guided. He said that the Prophet Muhammad had told the Muslim soldiers at the battle of Badr to not kill some of the nonbelievers, even though they were on the battlefield, as they had treated Muhammad well when he was in Mecca.
Hijji wrote that the students should ask Allah to save Chris' teacher (i.e. the German teacher) from death and turn his heart to the truth. But he said at the same time that the Prophet did not pray for forgiveness for the non-Muslims, and in particular did not ask Allah to have mercy on them, even those whom the Prophet had wanted to be guided when they were alive. Once they died, the Prophet was not permitted to ask for mercy for them. Hijji added that the Prophet behaved this way on Allah's instructions.
Hijji wrote that the relative importance of brotherhood in humanity or religion needs to be evaluated according to Allah's laws, and not according to human reason. He added that he might seem to be a hard-hearted person, but that this is what people throughout the generations said about the prophets and messengers who came with God's message to guide others to the truth.
According to Aafaq, some students expressed their uneasiness with the discussion and asked to be taken off the mailing list, while others tried to justify the seemingly difficult matter.
Aafaq noted that at least one Muslim student, Waleed Shaalan, had been killed in the attacks.
Source: Aafaq.org, April 17, 2007
Only brainwashed minds of this cult-like ideology could come up with garbage like this.
These “people” are f’n vermin.
KUMBAYA I SAY, KUMBAYA!
The rag-heads are a hate crime.
Only Moo Slimes want the mercy of Satan.
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Hahaha! Nice one!
I would prefer that they pray for my death before they pray for my conversion.
Nahh! We must be misinterpreting the meaning of those words.Islam is just and merciful. /s, with a capital S.
The MSM and Liberals are complicit in the promotion of an ideology as sick and destructive as this one to grow in America.
The religion of bullsh!+ and intolerance.
Or else!
Just remember folks, this is the moderate position. Ultimately, this is the best that the ROP will offer to Kaffirs.
This is a huge part of the problem we face with Islam. It forbids the use of one's own powers to reason, to observe the world and make decisions about it based on reason. It's why they don't want people to be able to read widely or come into contact with other religions.
What can you expect when they laughed at 9/11.
I know many Christians who will in no-wise pray for the dead, believer or non, on the basis of 2Cor5:10, "we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body" (my emphasis) means since once an earthly life has ended, there is nothing further to be done, vis-a-vis salvation.
I think that is to believe an error. The Old and New Testaments are rife with references to "deeds done" in the context of judgment and recompense. None of that is to deny Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Inasmuch as it's Biblical that believers should "ask anything in My name and it will be given you" (John 16:23b), and that "every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." (Mt. 12:31) plus that--though we don't know much about the specifics--Christians were praying and baptizing for the dead in 1Cor15:29.
I believe the correct understanding derives directly from the combination of John 16:23b and Mt 12:31. The salient point is not whether or not any and all have done deeds in this life that would condemn us to death, but rather, whether those sins will be covered by the blood of Christ Jesus, as "there is salvation in no one else." (Acts 4:12)
HF
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