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Windoze help needed

Posted on 05/10/2007 9:59:14 PM PDT by djf

I am trying to run W2K SP3, installed some camera software. Now, when I am in Outlook Express, stupid Narrator keeps starting and making my keyboard basically useless.

Anybody know WTF is going on?

If I'm not disabled, and I can't figure out how to control it, then how does a disabled person do it?

Whatta buncha junk.

And please, spare me the Linux cheerleading. Linux is nice to play with if you have the time. But the mainframe system I administer comes on 14 cd's. So I ain't got the time!


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1 posted on 05/10/2007 9:59:15 PM PDT by djf
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To: djf
Maybe this is a dumb reply, but could you just deinstall Narrator?

Or rename the Narrator executable to something else?

2 posted on 05/10/2007 10:05:55 PM PDT by upchuck (Who will support Fred Thompson? Anyone who enjoys a dose of common sense not wrapped in doublespeak.)
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To: djf
In XP, you can go to the Start menu and access Narrator as follows:
Programs | Accessories | Accessibility | Narrator

Not sure about W2K...

3 posted on 05/10/2007 10:08:05 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: upchuck

Good question. I’ve wandered through a ton of panels already trying to figure out how to uninstall Accessibility Options.

Normally, W2K is pretty good, but in alot of cases I think the ME/98 interface for system control was better.

W2K spends too much of it’s time trying to pretend it’s NT. I installed NT on one of my machines once and ripped it right out after playing with it for a half hour or so.


4 posted on 05/10/2007 10:11:06 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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W2K spends too much of it’s time trying to pretend it’s NT.

That's because Windows 2000 is actually Windows NT 5.0. XP is NT 5.1, and 2003 is 5.2. Not sure about Vista.

5 posted on 05/10/2007 10:15:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yup. And ME was ‘98 Third Edition.


6 posted on 05/10/2007 10:17:52 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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To: upchuck

Just found this:

To remove the Accessibility options FOREVER!

1. Start button/ Run type in regedit

2. find HKEY_CURRENT_USER/ Control Panel/ Accessibility

3. Rename the Accessibility folder to “*Accessbility”

NOTE- If you feel like there will EVER be a time you will need these features do NOT delete the folder, thats why i have suggested you simply rename it.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 10:22:22 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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To: djf

Upgrade to SP4 for starters. No telling how open you are to an untold amount of exploits.


8 posted on 05/10/2007 10:25:03 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: djf

Oh dear, no. Win98: first edition was crap, Second Edition was fine. ME...is demon spawn straight from Hell.


9 posted on 05/10/2007 10:25:52 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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To: KoRn
Upgrade to SP4 for starters.

That's probably a good idea. Also, place it behind an actual firewall or properly secured *nix box just to be safe.

10 posted on 05/10/2007 10:26:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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"But the mainframe system I administer comes on 14 cd's. So I ain't got the time!"

You are an admin and running W2K service pack 3, using Outlook Express as an email client??? OMG! I hope you take better care of the mainframe at work than you do your home computer systems.....

11 posted on 05/10/2007 10:28:32 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: djf

I still use my Commodore 64. No need for windows.


12 posted on 05/10/2007 10:29:42 PM PDT by isom35
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To: rabscuttle385

I had a HOSTS file used to block sites. But it got so big (479K) that my machine was bogging down processing it, I renamed it.

Nuthin but problems and popups since. Arrghhh!!!

Guess I gotta get around to installing a firewall.

Also, everybody oughta look out, there’s a nasty virus running around that spreads using messenger service.


13 posted on 05/10/2007 10:31:25 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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To: snarks_when_bored
In XP, you can go to the Start menu and access Narrator as follows:

Programs | Accessories | Accessibility | Narrator

Not sure about W2K...

Just tried what you suggested on my W2K box (only it’s called Utility Manager instead of Narrator) and my blasted computer started talking to me. Didn't even know what Narrator was until just now. From the Utility Manager you can select Narrator and there is a check box (Start automatically when Windows starts) that might be checked and causing his problem.

14 posted on 05/10/2007 10:31:56 PM PDT by derllak
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To: isom35

LOL! I still have my IBM Dos 1.2 5.25 single sided 160K floppy somewhere.

Bet it still boots! Two of my machines actually still have a 5.25 floppy drive installed.


15 posted on 05/10/2007 10:34:02 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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To: KoRn

I don’t need all the junk that comes with full bore Outlook.

Outlook Express is fairly clean and doesn’t use alot of resources.

I wouldn’t let any MS product within ten logical miles of the 2086. 8 gig core memory, a terrabyte on SAN, 4 1000 megabyte ethernet ports... z/OS 1.6
That machine is rock solid.


16 posted on 05/10/2007 10:40:22 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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To: derllak

In XP, a small dialogue box comes up that presents you with options for Narrator, including exiting the program. Of course, one can always kill the process in Task Manager, too. That checkbox you mentioned should help.


17 posted on 05/10/2007 10:47:27 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

That was one of the first things I checked, the checkbox was unchecked. I ran the regedit above and OE seems better now, but just for grins, I reinstalled Zonealarm.

Guess I’ll fire up a full AVG scan and go get a brew...

A days work is never done...

;-)


18 posted on 05/10/2007 10:54:56 PM PDT by djf (Free men own guns, slaves do not!)
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>> W2K spends too much of it’s time trying to pretend it’s NT.

> That's because Windows 2000 is actually Windows NT 5.0. XP is NT 5.1, and 2003 is 5.2. Not sure about Vista.

Vista is NT 6.0

Although some say that Vista is WinME II.

19 posted on 05/10/2007 11:38:38 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: djf

I can get a server from Dell more powerful than this for a few thousand dollars.

The PCs have far outstripped the mainframes in just about every measure EXCEPT for the OS reliability. However, the modern OSs such as Vista or XP are actually pretty stable (I run 8 PCs on XP and never crash). There is also Linux.

I spent 10 years on MVS but the truth of the matter is that mainframes are in a death cycle.

8 gb RAM ~ $600 (or less if not 2GB cards)
4 gigabit network cards ~ $50 (depends on card and features)
1 TB disk ~ $250 (more or less depending upon how many drives)

For a couple of thouand dollars I can equip a PC to be more powerful. This isn’t even taking into account the cheap, cheap cost of consumer devices such as PS3s.

The largest computing done today is on clusters of PCs. The datacenters for Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc. dwarf mainframe sites.

Go buy a new PC rather than using old hardware. On Dell Outlet you can purchase a very nice system for $700 or so (Intel Dual Core, 1 GB RAM, 320MD disk, 1 gbit network). Cheap price for a lot less aggravation.


20 posted on 05/11/2007 4:31:59 AM PDT by wireplay
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