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1 posted on 05/09/2007 9:50:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

This may not be such a bad idea here. At least the illegals will be in one place and the police don’t have to hunt them down. All they have to do is watch the churches and go get them.


2 posted on 05/09/2007 9:52:58 AM PDT by RC2
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To: NormsRevenge

I predicted that this would happen. Next, donating parishioners will get sick of supporting the illegal invaders and take their donations elsewhere.


3 posted on 05/09/2007 9:53:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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Looks like the Catholic Church and Luthern denomination plan to lose more American members.


4 posted on 05/09/2007 9:54:44 AM PDT by Fee ( R)
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Over at Michelle Malkin’s site

Welcome to Sanctuary Nation
By Michelle Malkin · May 09, 2007
http://www.michellemalkin.com/


5 posted on 05/09/2007 9:56:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... In FReeP We Trust ...)
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To: NormsRevenge; redgolum; bcsco; Charles Henrickson; Paul Heinzman
"Beginning Wednesday, a Catholic Church in Los Angeles and a Lutheran church in North Hollywood each intend to shelter one person as part of the "New Sanctuary Movement."

Please tell me it's the ELCA/HerChurch crowd of heretics.

7 posted on 05/09/2007 9:57:30 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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If the churches are becoming involved in political issues revoke their tax exempt status.


8 posted on 05/09/2007 9:57:44 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: NormsRevenge
So this Catholic church and this Lutheran church support breaking the law. Got it.

Seems to me we are admonished in the New Testament to obey the ordinances of the nation in which we live.

10 posted on 05/09/2007 9:59:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Two churches intend to give sanctuary to illegal immigrants to protect them from deportation and put pressure on lawmakers to create a path to citizenship for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.


Tax breaks for churches involving themselves in politics? Where’s the separation of church and state crowd?


11 posted on 05/09/2007 9:59:59 AM PDT by keepitreal
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14 posted on 05/09/2007 10:04:07 AM PDT by gubamyster
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"The faith groups "don't seem to realize that they are being charitable with someone else's resources, and that's not charity,"

No, but it IS the essence of Big Government!

15 posted on 05/09/2007 10:04:23 AM PDT by Redbob
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How perverted for churches - places where we expect our children to receive moral teaching - supporting breaking laws and rewarding those who harm this country.


17 posted on 05/09/2007 10:06:31 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps they should consult their dictionary:

Aiding and Abetting ; Accomplice: At law, an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offence.


18 posted on 05/09/2007 10:07:42 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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When Bob Dornan (a staunch Irish Catholic) lost his seat in Congress in 1996, one of the groups signing up illegal aliens to vote and “helping” them complete their ballots was Catholic Charities. Go figure.


19 posted on 05/09/2007 10:10:27 AM PDT by darth
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Listen Patriots....work is way down...slave masters do not need many of them right now....slave trading is way down...someone has to care of these people....we got to get along together..that is what Arnold and Sr. Bush say.....have some compassion....


20 posted on 05/09/2007 10:11:35 AM PDT by Sovernity (What are You doing other than talking and listening???)
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Is this integration of church and state?


21 posted on 05/09/2007 10:11:44 AM PDT by ampat
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To: NormsRevenge
Beginning Wednesday, a Catholic Church in Los Angeles and a Lutheran church in North Hollywood each intend to shelter one person...

I would hate to see any families torn apart, so hopefully they will only give sanctuary to a single person.

22 posted on 05/09/2007 10:14:08 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Another pool of children for the priests to molest?


23 posted on 05/09/2007 10:16:03 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: NormsRevenge

My problem with churches harboring illegal immigrants is because it is unscriptural. The Bible tells us to honor the laws and government we may find ourselves subject to....whether the rulers are just or unjust....we still must abide by the law.

Romans 13:1-2 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

We have ways of changing laws that we feel may be unjust in this country. If the catholics or lutherans wants to change the laws..they have every right to petition the government to do so. But to blatantly stand up and defy the law that is in place will bring judgment upon them.

God never honors rebellion.


24 posted on 05/09/2007 10:19:25 AM PDT by leenie312
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Did these churches step up like this for Illian Gonzales before Clinton sent him back to Cuba?


25 posted on 05/09/2007 10:21:45 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: NormsRevenge
Apprehend these aiders and abetters, arrest them, try them and jail them.

A couple of high profile cases should do the trick.

Churchmen think they are above the law, just as they did when molesting alter boys was thought to be undicoverable.

Put them in shackles and make their church or agency pay big bucks. Shut 'em down.

Here is a list of likely Sanctuary Offenders:

Amazing how "churches" care more about filling the pews than they do about the thousands upon thousands of Americans killed by illegals since 9/11. The Interfaith Council has put billions of dollars into Illegal immigrant assitance over the last twenty years. There is compassion and then there is IDIOT COMPASSION!( a liberal affectation). They are the lobbying group that has The President and the RINOs fawning all over them on illegal aliens! They wage demographic warfare on the United States, under the banner of Marxist socialist Liberation Theology!

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Who are they? Take a gander:

http://www.wr.org/ourwork/whatwedo/reform.asp

QUOTE:

We, the undersigned faith-based leaders and organizations, join together to call upon President Bush and our elected officials in Congress to enact comprehensive immigration reform legislation that establishes a safe and humane immigration system consistent with our values. Our diverse faith traditions teach us to welcome our brothers and sisters with love and compassion.

UNQUOTE

The result of the Roman Catholic foundation movement is here, among many other religious institutions whose liberal values represent a multicultural agenda, and a complete social change for the United States, and the devolution of our culture of freedom through immigration for immigrants who have no intended allegiance to the United States or its constitution:

National Organizations:

Anti-Defamation League

American Friends Service Committee (AFSC)

American Jewish Committee

American Jewish Congress

American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA)

B’nai B’rith International

Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Inc. (CLINIC)

Church World Service/Immigration and Refugee Program

The Conference of Major Superiors of Men

Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)

International Catholic Migration Commission

Irish Apostolate, USA

Islamic Circle of North America

Jesuit Conference

Jesuit Refugee Service/USA

Jewish Council for Public Affairs

Jewish Reconstructionist Federation

Jubilee Campaign USA

Justice for Our Neighbors Immigration Clinic Network

La Ermita - The Hermitage

Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service

Mennonite Central Committee U.S. Washington Office

Mexican American Cultural Center

National Council of Jewish Women

National Ministries, American Baptist Churches USA

U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops

Union for Reform Judaism

United Jewish Communities

United Methodist Committee on Relief

United States Province of the Priests of the Sacred Heart

Women In Islam, Inc.

Women’s League for Conservative Judaism

World Relief

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Local Organizations:

Baltimore Jewish Council

Building Bridges: Hispanic Outreach Project Community of St. Anthony Church in Canton, Ohio

Cabrini Immigrant Services, Dobbs Ferry, New York

Cabrini Immigrant Services, New York, New York

California Province of the Society of Jesus Capuchin Province of St. Joseph, Detroit, Michigan

Catholic Charities Diocese of Des Moines

Catholic Charities Diocese of San Diego

Catholic Charities Hawaii

Catholic Charities Health and Human Services, Diocese of Cleveland

Catholic Charities Housing Opportunities (CCHO), Youngstown, Ohio

Catholic Charities in the Archdiocese of Santa Fe, New Mexico

Catholic Charities in the Diocese of Paterson, New Jersey

Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Arlington, Virginia

Catholic Charities of Tennessee, Inc.

Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, Texas

Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington

Catholic Migration Office of the Diocese of Brooklyn, New York

Catholic Social Services in Anchorage, Alaska

Clerics of St. Viator, Chicago Province

Commonwealth Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Richmond, Virginia

Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of San Antonio

Congregation of Holy Cross, Southern Province

Congregation of Our Lady of Victory Missionary Sisters, Huntington, Indiana

Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus

En Camino, Migrant and Immigrant Services, Diocese of Toledo, Ohio

Family Unity & Citizenship Program of the Diocese of Las Cruces

HIAS and Council Migration Services of Philadelphia

Hogar Hispano - Catholic Charities, Falls Church, Virginia Houston Dominican Sisters

Human Concerns Commission of the Diocese of San Jose

Interfaith Refugee and Immigration Ministries of Illinois

Jewish Community Action, St. Paul, Minnesota

Jewish Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of Southern Arizona

Lutheran Children and Family Service of Eastern Pennsylvania

Lutheran Family Services in the Carolinas

Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota

Lutheran Social Services of Michigan

Lutheran Social Services of New England

Lutheran Social Services of Northern New England

Lutheran Social Services of South Dakota

Lutheran Social Services of the National Capital Area

Marianist Province of the United States, St. Louis, Missouri

Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty, New York

Migration and Refugee Services Diocese of Trenton, New Jersey

Missionary Sisters of the Immaculate Conception, Province of the Immaculate Conception, Paterson, New Jersey

Missionary Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Stella Maris Province, New York, New York

Missionhurst-CICM, Arlington, Virginia

National Catholic Rural Life Conference, Des Moines, Iowa

New Albany Deanery of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis, Indiana

Northern Indiana Ecumenical Multicultural Ministry (NIEMM), Morocco, Indiana

Organización for Latino Awareness of the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago

Priests of the Sacred Heart (SCJ), Hales Corners, Wisconsin

Provincial Council of the Province of St. John the Baptist of the Order of Friars Minor, Cincinnati, Ohio

River's Edge Community Church, Oella, Maryland

Saints Peter and Paul Church, Savannah, Georgia

Society of Jesus (Jesuits), New York Province

Society of the Divine Word, Chicago Province

St James Faithful Citizenship, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St James Parish Council, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St James Parish Social Ministries, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St. Benedict's Abbey, Benet Lake, Wisconsin

UJA-Federation of New York

Vincentian Center for Church and Society at St. John's University, New York

Western Dominican Province, Oakland, California

Wider Church Ministries - United Church of Christ, Cleveland, Ohio

Wisconsin Province of the Society of Jesus

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Individual Faith Leaders:

Pamela Beech, Archdiocese of Detroit, Lay Leadership and Formation

Rev. Dr. Clive Calver, Walnut Hill Community Church, Bethel, CT

P. Adem Carroll, 9/11 Relief Director Islamic Circle of North America USA (ICNA Relief)

Patrick Gilger, SJ, Loyola University Chicago

Most Reverend Nicholas DiMarzio, Bishop of Brooklyn

John E. Dister, SJ, Detroit Province Jesuits, Loyola of the Lakes Retreat House

Bob Dunden, SJ, St Benedict the Moor Parish, Omaha, NE

John C. Fickes, Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus

Francis Cardinal George, Archbishop of Chicago

Michael Higgins, C.P., Provincial Superior of Holy Cross Province of the Passionists, Chicago, Illinois

Daniel Idzikowski, Catholic Charities of the Diocese of La Crosse, Inc., La Crosse, Wisconsin

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh, Port Wentworth, Georgia

Dr Khurshid Khan, President of the Islamic Circle of North America

Most Reverend Gerald Kicanas, Bishop of Tucson

Clifton Kirkpatrick, Stated Clerk of the General Assembly, Presbyterian Church-USA

Abbot Jerome Kodell, OSB, Subiaco, Arkansas

Reverand John S.Korcsmar, CSC, Austin, Texas

Sister Larraine Lauter OSU, Owensboro, Kentucky

Reverand Msgr. Ronald T. Marino, Brooklyn, New York

Peter Vander Meulen, Office of Social Justice and Hunger Action, Christian Reformed Church

Carrie Monnette, Detroit Province Jesuits, Assistant for Social and International Ministries

Allan Parker, Pastor, Quitman Church of the Nazarene, Quitman, GA

Sylvia Romero, Hispanic Ministry at Grace United Methodist Church, Olathe, Kansas

Most Reverend Carlos Sevilla, S.J., Bishop of Yakima, Washington

Secretary General, Rashid Siddiqui, Islamic Circle of North America

Michael Simone, SJ, Weston Jesuit School of Theology

Most Reverend Jaime Soto, Auxiliary Bishop of Orange, California

Madonna Della Strada, Jesuit Residence

Professor Elie Wiesel, Boston University

Most Reverend Thomas G. Wenski, Bishop of Orlando

26 posted on 05/09/2007 10:22:49 AM PDT by Candor7
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