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Will Britain One Day be Muslim?
Daily Mail ^ | May 5, '07 | Ruth Dudley Edwards

Posted on 05/07/2007 1:00:45 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

In my many conversations with people about the threat that radical Islam poses to the British way of life - and, indeed, to European civilization - we frequently end by despairingly agreeing that the West seems intent on committing political and cultural suicide. We look starkly at the demographic statistics, the wimpishness of our Establishment in the face of the threat, the perversions perpetuated by political correctness and our own passivity, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that within a couple of generations, Islam will be in control in Europe. Consider just a few chilling statistics. Europeans are failing to reproduce. Just to keep the population steady, you need to have 2.1 live births per woman. However, in 2005, the European average was 1.38. In Irealand it was 1.9, France 1.89, Germany 1.35 and Italy 1.23. Britain scored near the middle of this range with 1.6, but that was because - like France - we have a large Muslim population with a high birth rate. Indeed, Muslims are outbreeding non-Muslims throughout Europe.

"Just look at the development within Europe," said a triumphant Norwegian imam a few months ago, "where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children. Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."

The big question this poses is: Why are we not reproducing? There are many reasons but probably the most important are the decline of religion and the liberation of women. Whereas in the 1970's, I was regarded both in the UK and Ireland as odd for being voluntarily childless, these days, childlessness is a common choice. In Ireland...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: americaalone; deathofthewest; dhimmitude; islam; islamophiles; muhammadsminions
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To: T.L.Sink
Indeed, Muslims are outbreeding non-Muslims throughout Europe.

Okay, gents, I need as many volunteers as I can get to charter a flight (or better, a ship) to the UK for an extended visit. It's our duty to save Britain from the invader...in this case, by boosting the birthrate.

When we get there, you know what to do!


21 posted on 05/07/2007 1:26:02 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Mark Felton

Well, that was what the Pope pointed out. Christianity is a religion that does not reject reason, and believes that God is knowable to human beings through his revelation and through the law He has stamped on the universe. He created us in His Image and Likeness, so we look for reason and for the law of our being that is fundamental to virtually all religions - except Islam.

Islam is an insane death cult that rejects the reasonable nature of God and rejects natural law; Islamic law is what is called positive law, that is, created and imposed law, and it is essentially Old Testament ritual law twisted and exaggerated to the point of insanity. If you think devils live in your nose and have to be washed out before you pray, go be a Muslim.


22 posted on 05/07/2007 1:29:06 PM PDT by livius
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To: T.L.Sink

Okay, Britain can be Muslim if they wish, but we get to keep the Queen and her $$$$$.


23 posted on 05/07/2007 1:30:46 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Oberon

Where do I sign up?


24 posted on 05/07/2007 1:31:30 PM PDT by bmw_n_me (Keep working! Millions depend on your welfare!)
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To: T.L.Sink
Muslims are outbreeding non-Muslims throughout Europe

That's the plan. Go back to sleep.

25 posted on 05/07/2007 1:31:40 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: GreenThumb420

“Frances Muslim population ranges from 5%-10% and this could be a big reason the recent conservative victory. I expect that the UK will take the same path before the Muslim population gets too large.”

yes, i agree. Everyone who was asked said they voted for Sarko because of the out of control crime. I think that’s an euphemisim (or code language for Sarkozy supporters) for being opposed to immigration. its the muslim immigrants (or immigrant descendants) who were the rioters 18 months ago, not indigenous frenchmen.


26 posted on 05/07/2007 1:31:56 PM PDT by rogernz
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To: Ben Mugged
According to the 2001 census 1,536,015 Muslims are living in England and Wales, where they form 3% of the population, in Scotland they represent 0.84% of the population (42,557). The Northern Ireland census indicated 1,943 Muslims.

Hardly what you would call significant.

Correct. But, how many illegal Mexicans did we have 10-20 years ago? Not the current 25 million or so they estimate now. So, the cancer grows here and it continues to grow there.

27 posted on 05/07/2007 1:32:21 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (America has lost its mind and is on its last days as a free country & Republic.)
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To: bmw_n_me; MadIvan; Mrs Ivan
Where do I sign up?

We'll get a roster together if it looks like we have enough volunteers. I would think 20 or so would make it worthwhile. Oh...and it has to be folks whose genes would actually help the cause.

Ivan, could you help with arrangements on that end? =]

28 posted on 05/07/2007 1:35:53 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: RECONRICK

“The fact is, there are more Muslim mosques than there are Christian churches in Britain.”

Can anyone confirm this? This statement fails the commonsense test. Especially considering that Britain actually does have a state-sponsored church.


30 posted on 05/07/2007 1:36:10 PM PDT by NYIslander
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To: billbears; RECONRICK
Yes, 3% is practically a majority isn't it....

3% and growing due to both immigration and natural increase. Don't forget, their women start having children at an earlier age. That effectively increases the rate of increase just as shortening the length of compounding periods on a bank account boosts the effective rate of interest. Money held in an account at 1.25% interest compounded quarterly yields more interest than the same amount in an account at 5% interest compounded annually. Muslims have larger families and their women start families at an earlier age. Extrapolated into the future, many European countries will become majority Muslim by the end of this century. Europeans will become minorities in their own countries.

31 posted on 05/07/2007 1:36:41 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: NYIslander; RECONRICK
“The fact is, there are more Muslim mosques than there are Christian churches in Britain.”

What I've read is that there are more mosques than Catholic churches in Britain.

33 posted on 05/07/2007 1:37:59 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: rogernz
The Camp of the Saints - Jean Raspail
34 posted on 05/07/2007 1:39:26 PM PDT by rogernz
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To: Mark Felton

“(its not just Baptists all Protestants value mankind the same way).”

I’m going to risk starting something and insert Catholics in there as well.


35 posted on 05/07/2007 1:39:39 PM PDT by oakcon (America wants you: Run Fred Run!)
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To: NYIslander; RECONRICK
Complete BS according to this article in the Times

47,000 churches in England vs. 1669 mosques. I guess they're a lot lower considering only 3% is Muslim. But hey throw around some more 'facts' why don't you?

36 posted on 05/07/2007 1:40:19 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: RECONRICK
This is an excellent book about modern Britain.


Click on image

37 posted on 05/07/2007 1:41:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: RECONRICK
Even if it is only 3%, it probably seems like a lot more when you're talking about mooslims.......

38 posted on 05/07/2007 1:42:02 PM PDT by b4its2late (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: Borges

Now wouldn’t that just be tragic?
sarcasm off


39 posted on 05/07/2007 1:42:54 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: T.L.Sink

Britain is already Muslim. Queen Elizabeth II is over here celebrating while her countrymen are giving England away. Fools, all of them.

And do you think Muslims in America care about our precious Consititution? Nosirrebob, they don’t.


40 posted on 05/07/2007 1:44:07 PM PDT by andonte
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