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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today

May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins

“I wouldn’t vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States!” There’s a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring – as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from America’s so-called “Christian right”. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?

There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma – John F. Kennedy – only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: “. . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.” John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFK’s speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been “whistlin’ Dixie”. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.

According to Media Matters for America - “. . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media” - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). “Among many conservative evangelicals – who comprise a significant part of the Republican base – Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult.” Media Matters for America (2007)

While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: “You, sir, you’re a pretender. You do not know the Lord. You’re a Mormon.” Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign – as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone who’s interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy – all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions – you know, the guys on bikes – and during their mission they don’t date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays – reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy”. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a year’s supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishop’s Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, what’s not to love?

So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitt’s book, “Mormon in the White House?” he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):

1) “It is just too weird.

2) “A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons’ missionary work.

3) “If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues.” Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)

Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the “Mormon problem.” It’s a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes – unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances – none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)

Well, I’m no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; he’s an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (I’ve seen him in action in Sacramento); he’s brilliant; he’s well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus he’s kind of cute. I’m basically a “nobody” – an overweight grandma – but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romney’s religion of choice: It’s all about money, power and control (in that order). I think they’re (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).

As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. “You will know them by their fruit” and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.

Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy – just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.

Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit he’d been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a “cult” that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, there’s big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CD’s, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. We’re talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.

The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers – million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)

It’s nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since it’s inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, let’s stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed “that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, “They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . .” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)

During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.

In an event known in LDS history as “the Haun’s Mill Massacre”, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. “A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder.” LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.

In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the “unfortunate developments” it caused. Quoting from Governor Bond’s Executive Order: “WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . .” Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.

I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (“A Call for Unity”) in which they criticize King’s tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack – made worse because he’s stuck in jail and can’t confront the religious leaders face-to-face – his response is gentle genius. “I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)

King has a few choice words for the Church, too: “If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)

King signs off with “Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood”.

There’s an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.

A few popular bumper stickers read: “Honk if you love Jesus” and “Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven” or “Jesus is my co-pilot”. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romney’s run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.

References

ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.

Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.

Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.

Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm

Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org

Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57

Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002


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To: tantiboh
What list is that? I’m afraid I’ve never come across it.

See Post #2452. Names that the Mormon Church calls all other churches.

LDS students make "lists" all the time based on their scriptures and pronouncements from their leaders. Biblical students do the same.

2,521 posted on 05/15/2007 3:53:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DanielLongo; Colofornian

“Your dodge is very cowardly.”

Let’s not get personal, DL. Not terribly Christlike.


2,522 posted on 05/15/2007 3:54:14 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: DanielLongo

Nope they were NOT the only prophets of their dispensations if you read the timeline you will find that some of those prophets lived concurrently.


2,523 posted on 05/15/2007 3:54:26 PM PDT by colorcountry ("You step in crap once and spend the rest of your life scraping it off.")
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To: DanielLongo; colorcountry
Amos 3: 7 7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

So your prophet knows when it's going to snow in Provo? (God doesn't let it snow w/out telling the LDS prophet?)

2,524 posted on 05/15/2007 3:54:32 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DelphiUser

Firefox works fine with Vista. Using the combination now, no troubles.

FF 2.0 introduces the spell checker. Quite useful indeed.


2,525 posted on 05/15/2007 3:56:59 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: DanielLongo
Here ya go:


Timeline
Minor Prophets of the Old Testament

Date (B.C.)
Prophet
Meaning of Prophet's Name
Theme of Book in the Bible
Gave Prophecies To/About
Major Sins Addressed
840 - 830
Obadiah
Worshipper of YHVH
Day of the Lord; Destruction of Edom; Israel's restoration
Against Edom
Edom had continual violence toward Jacob. Edom cheered when Judah taken captive.
830 - 750
Joel
YHVH is God
The Day of the Lord
Israel, Northern Kingdom
Adultery, drunkenness, idolatry, licentiousness.
780 - 740
Jonah
Dove
Sign of Commitment; Type of Jesus Christ; God's mercy to repentant
Nineveh, with implications to all peoples
Cruelty of the Assyrians
765 - 725
Hosea
Salvation
Salvation
Israel, Northern Kingdom
Adultery, drunkenness, idolatry, licentiousness.
760
Amos
Burden Bearer
The Day of the Lord; The Eternal will roar
Israel, Judah and Benjamin.
All Nations.
Oppression of the poor; Sexual Immorality; Wanton Luxury; Corruption of law & men
 
Date (B.C.)
Prophet
Meaning of
Prophet's Name
Theme of Book
in the Bible
Gave Prophecies
To/About
Major Sins Addressed
740 - 700
Micah
Who is like YHVH?
The Eternal is just Judge
Samaria, Jerusalem and then the whole earth
Lack of justice in the land, injustice, oppression
640 - 620
Nahum
Consolation
Judgement on Nineveh; Comfort to Israel
Assyrians, primarily the city of Nineveh
Cruelty of the Assyrians, overstepped boundaries
640 - 609
Zephaniah
Hidden by YHVH
God's indignation on the earth; Who may be hidden?; Israel repents, God saves them
Judah, Jerusalem, all Israel and all peoples, warning them of the Day of the Lord
Spiritual fornication
608 - 605
Habakkuk
Embrace
God Embraces Judah through destroying the Chaldeans
Babylon with implications for all peoples
Aggression/plunder; Greed/self-assertion; Graft/violence in building; Inhumanity; Idolatry
520
Haggai
Festival
The restoration Temple points to the Church
Zerubbabel, Joshua and the returned remnant
Neglect in building God's House. Procastrination.
520 - 480
Zechariah
Remembered by YHVH
The coming of God's Kingdom preceded by building of Temple
Zerubbabel, Joshua and the returned remnant
Joshua had filthy garments. Lack of Judgment, mercy & peace. Living in evil ways.
420 - 400
Malachi
My Messenger
Be prepared for the messenger that is to come. (Elijah)
Israel (12 tribes) and Israel of God today (Church)
Priests neglecting duties. People chided for divorce, adultery, robbing God and criticizing.

Finding the Minor Prophets in the Bible
Order of Books in the Old Testament

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges,
Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, 1 Kings, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles,
Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes,
Song of Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum,
Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi

Compiled by: Bernie Monsalvo

 
 
 

BibleStudy.org
You Have Questions.  The Bible Has Answers.

 

2,526 posted on 05/15/2007 3:58:13 PM PDT by colorcountry ("You step in crap once and spend the rest of your life scraping it off.")
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To: Netizen; DanielLongo
That’s a contested verse. Eusebius cites that verse multiple times in works written between 300AD and 336AD, in his commentaries on the Psalms, Isaiah, Demonstratio Evangelica, and Theophany, as well as in his famous History of the Church. Each time he cites it in the following form: ‘Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in My name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.‘"

Nice try. All you do expose the gullibilities of "higher criticism." So, you're telling me that since D&C 84:27 says essentially the same thing as Mt. 28:19, that D&C 84:27 is a "contested verse," too? (Why didn't your prophet, who has access to all corrections of Scripture in his "Inspired Version"...correct this in D&C?)

I think you'll get in a better gymnastics workout if you get in leotards.

2,527 posted on 05/15/2007 4:01:44 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Then it should read: In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. That would be correctly describing one individual with three titles. However, the modifiers that are used to preface the titles in the original Greek from which it was taken defines each title as a distinct entity. that is why it says "of the Father,andof the Son,andof the Holy Ghost.

the only obvious reading I drew from your post is that you have trouble with both math and English. It is three.

So, what is the name of the church you go to/participate with/find yourself sitting in on Sunday/Saturday/were baptized in/...the name?

2,528 posted on 05/15/2007 4:02:13 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Colofornian

“Wanna explain why Scripture doesn’t there say “names” (plural) but rather says “name?” (singular)”

Your interpretation of grammar in this case is incorrect; in this case, the word “name” is inconclusive of the plurality of the nouns that follow.

Ex:
“I poured some food into the bowl of my dog.”
“I poured some food into the bowl of my dog, my cat, and my goldfish.”

To use “bowls” in that instance indicates that the dog has more than one bowl. “Bowl” and “name” are the correct usage.


2,529 posted on 05/15/2007 4:02:27 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh
It is cowardly. You ask him the name of his church. What's so hard to answer? What church do you go to/belong to?
2,530 posted on 05/15/2007 4:05:40 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: colorcountry

...and what is your point?


2,531 posted on 05/15/2007 4:06:17 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DelphiUser
Every dispensation has a prophet tat the head, Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Joseph Smith

Wrong.

Many of the OT prophets were contemporaries of each other--meaning multiple prophets lived in the same general region. There was no "head prophet" (show we where in the OT). I don't think you can even find such a concept in the BoM.

2,532 posted on 05/15/2007 4:08:20 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: MHGinTN
Matthew 3 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

So, Jesus is in the water with John, the Holy Ghost decends like a dove and lights upon him and Father speaks from heaven. Let's see...one...two...three...hmmmmmmmmmm.

2,533 posted on 05/15/2007 4:10:09 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: colorcountry

...what’s your point?


2,534 posted on 05/15/2007 4:10:40 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Colofornian

I don’t contest that verse.


2,535 posted on 05/15/2007 4:11:32 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo
name of church

I belong to the Church of the Faith Once Delivered to the Saints (Jude 3). Emphasis on the word "once" (no need for a second delivery!)

Otherwise known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Former-Day Saints! (a church which Jesus says the gates of hell would never prevail against, a prophecy in which JoeSmith accuses Jesus of being a liar). [JS even boasted he was the only man who ever kept a church together & that even Jesus Christ didn't do it]

2,536 posted on 05/15/2007 4:16:56 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DanielLongo
Take a glass, put ice cubes into it, add water from the tap and let it sit for a month or two ... H2O exists in three states or manifestations, simultaneously in your glass and around it.
2,537 posted on 05/15/2007 4:18:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: DelphiUser
Firefox spellcheck is pretty good. Gives you a single dotted red underline for words it doesn't recognize, right-clicking the word pops up a menu where you can select the proper spelling, add your spelling to the dictionary or turn off the spellcheck.

Works on every website you visit.

I can't believe you guys flogged this thread to 2500 posts.
2,538 posted on 05/15/2007 4:20:37 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Colofornian
LDS students make "lists" all the time based on their scriptures and pronouncements from their leaders. Biblical students do the same.

Strange, I was a student, i never made such a list.

Will all the Mormons who made lists of names to call other churches while a student please respond to this post...

Crickets...

Thank you.
2,539 posted on 05/15/2007 4:21:53 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Colofornian

Then, maybe you can tell me who Paul went to to receive the laying on of hands to be ordained to the Apostleship.

...and what is the name of the church you go to?


2,540 posted on 05/15/2007 4:24:52 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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