Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today
May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins
I wouldnt vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States! Theres a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from Americas so-called Christian right. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?
There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma John F. Kennedy only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: . . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood. John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFKs speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.
Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been whistlin Dixie. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.
According to Media Matters for America - . . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). Among many conservative evangelicals who comprise a significant part of the Republican base Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult. Media Matters for America (2007)
While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: You, sir, youre a pretender. You do not know the Lord. Youre a Mormon. Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.
For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romneys church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and the members should rightfully be called members of the LDS Church but the words Mormon and Mormonism have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the M word as if it were dirty.
Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone whos interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions you know, the guys on bikes and during their mission they dont date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a years supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishops Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, whats not to love?
So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitts book, Mormon in the White House? he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):
1) It is just too weird.
2) A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons missionary work.
3) If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues. Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)
Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the Mormon problem. Its a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)
Well, Im no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; hes an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (Ive seen him in action in Sacramento); hes brilliant; hes well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus hes kind of cute. Im basically a nobody an overweight grandma but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romneys religion of choice: Its all about money, power and control (in that order). I think theyre (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).
As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. You will know them by their fruit and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.
Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.
Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit hed been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a cult that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, theres big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CDs, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. Were talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.
The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)
Its nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since its inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, lets stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues. Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . . Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)
During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake. Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.
Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an extermination order: The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . . Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating Mormons making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.
In an event known in LDS history as the Hauns Mill Massacre, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder. LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.
In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the unfortunate developments it caused. Quoting from Governor Bonds Executive Order: WHEREAS, Governor Boggs order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . . Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.
I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (A Call for Unity) in which they criticize Kings tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack made worse because hes stuck in jail and cant confront the religious leaders face-to-face his response is gentle genius. I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes. Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)
King has a few choice words for the Church, too: If todays church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust. Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)
King signs off with Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood.
Theres an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.
A few popular bumper stickers read: Honk if you love Jesus and Christians arent perfect, just forgiven or Jesus is my co-pilot. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romneys run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.
References
ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.
Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.
Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.
Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm
Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.
John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org
Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57
Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002
“If you are going to mock things that are sacred, thats your choice, but they are biblical in nature and were given to ancient prophets as well as modern ones to do the Lords work. You have the references I posted earlier. Why dont you go read them and educate yourself.”
Why do I need to educate myself when I have the Urim and Thurim in my hand to show me your sinful ways? As far as doing the Lord’s work, I think exposing frauds is quite an act of charity, don’t you? And since I’m a prophet, my words are inspired and never wrong, unless I have a revelation.
Did you get to watch that Spurs - Suns game? Wow, what a defensive effort by San Antonio.
I've got something you can ponder. lol.
Give me some time to check with God as to whether or not you are His prophet, like I did with Joseph Smith.
Rest assured, I’ll get back to you if the answer is yes.
Hello,
Where did everybody go?
“Give me some time to check with God as to whether or not you are His prophet, like I did with Joseph Smith.
Rest assured, Ill get back to you if the answer is yes.”
It isn’t up to you whether I am a prophet or not. You don’t seem to care what I think of Joseph Smith as a prophet, yet you want me to respect the Mormon church which stands on the foundation of whether he was inspired or merely a grifter.
So, applying your logic, you must respect the religion of FastCoyote because I am a prophet/god of higher caliber than Joseph Smith (I am the new revelation of Mormon truth). Joseph Smith declared himself a prophet, why can’t I? Wait till you read the revelations I’ve found reading the sports page through the seer stone I found in a well (don’t make fun of me, I am easily hurt).
“If you have a Urim and Thummin in your hand, that would make you a seer and a prophet just like Moses. Now that you have them, tell me how they work and how you got them?”
Why, God gave them to me. Of course.
“It isnt up to you whether I am a prophet or not.”
Of course it’s not up to me. That’s why the Lord helps us to discern truth.
“You dont seem to care what I think of Joseph Smith as a prophet...”
This is true.
“...yet you want me to respect the Mormon church which stands on the foundation of whether he was inspired or merely a grifter.”
I couldn’t care less about your respect. I only request the same tolerance that I extend toward you.
“So, applying your logic...”
Nope, sorry, I’m afraid you missed the point.
[It isnt up to you whether I am a prophet or not.
Of course its not up to me. Thats why the Lord helps us to discern truth.
You dont seem to care what I think of Joseph Smith as a prophet...
This is true.
...yet you want me to respect the Mormon church which stands on the foundation of whether he was inspired or merely a grifter.
I couldnt care less about your respect. I only request the same tolerance that I extend toward you.]
But, you have shown repeatedly that you are intolerant of my view (as a prophet of the God FastCoyote) that Joseph Smith was a grifter. So, you neither respect me nor are you tolerant, yet you expect respect and tolerance.
This is the chaos that results when you become so invested in proving the holy status of a man about whom there are reams of evidence of fraud. You have to beg for tolerance to avoid being held to the truth, while at the same time you have to be intolerant of those who provide the evidence.
It is this battle between evidence and conviction that I propose makes Mitt undesireable as a presidential candidate.
“This is the chaos that results when you become so invested in proving the holy status of a man about whom there are reams of evidence of fraud.”
I don’t care to prove that Smith was a prophet; the Lord does that quite well Himself, thank you, for those who care to honestly ask.
You can think about Joseph Smith what you want; I don’t care. But when anybody spreads falsehoods about my faith, I will refute them. Think and say whatever you want; but do not brand it as intolerance when I do the same.
At the same time, I don’t sit here in my PJ’s and try to disprove your faith. Your continuous attacks strike me as demonstrative of intolerance.
I’m done arguing with you on the topic.
Happy Mother’s Day. Mormons love to celebrate Mother’s Day and the Missionaries will call their mothers today. It is a big day. Yahoo!
Happy Mothers Day to you too Saundra. There are vast areas where we are in agreement.
“At the same time, I dont sit here in my PJs and try to disprove your faith.”
I work all day and night in my Hugh Hefner autographed smoking jacket, attended to by my adoring bunny disciples. Let us not distort the true meaning of Fast Coyoteism.
“Your continuous attacks strike me as demonstrative of intolerance.”
And your attacks on my attacks bespeak an intolerance to my views as well. Intolerance of intolerance is by definition intolerance. That’s why those kinds of statements should crawl away from intelligent discussion like the cockroaches of thought they are, except being only three legged cockroaches they are doomed to wander forever in circles irritating everyone.
I’m am intolerant of anyone who believes 2 + 2 = 5. What about you?
“Im am intolerant of anyone who believes 2 + 2 = 5. What about you?”
I don’t care. If they won’t listen to me when I tell them it’s four, I move along. I have the truth that they refuse to accept, so I have the advantage.
Your approach appears to be to bludgeon them over the head until they get it. Of course, you neglect the fact that 2.4 rounds to two, and 4.8 rounds to five; so the person that says 2 + 2 = 5 may well simply have more information than you - he’s decided not to exclude the second significant digit.
Therefore, a much more productive approach is to try and -understand- why they think the way they do. If, once you have that understanding, you continue to disagree with them, you have a much better basis on which to do it.
“Your approach appears to be to bludgeon them over the head until they get it. Of course, you neglect the fact that 2.4 rounds to two, and 4.8 rounds to five; so the person that says 2 + 2 = 5 may well simply have more information than you - hes decided not to exclude the second significant digit.”
I’m trained as an engineer, and now I do multi million dollar deals. If I am doing engineering and I make egregious errors, people could die. If I make such an error in a business transaction, bankruptcy can ensue and people could be forced to the brink of disaster with homes lost.
I find it odd that you would expect me to be less exacting in choosing a president (the current one has acted as executioner of many thousands and lost thousands in battle), or in choosing religious dogma that could risk the very souls of people, than I am in my material affairs.
If so, I have a sure fire design for a 747 that’s only off by 2 + 2 = 5 in the fatigue stress measurements.
Then I suppose you’d better go with 2.4 + 2.4 = 4.8.
The question of whether I would vote for a muslim is a strawman. Maybe I would if he was the republican nominee if the democrat was even worse than Hillary and the muslim was a conservative. Honestly it would bother me, but if the circumstances were right. Maybe If I believed he was the best candidate. Its really a nonsense question.
Catholics are farther away from “the truth” than the LDS church, but it won’t stop me from holding my nose and voting for Rudy if he gets the nod. Did you vote for McClintock? Aren’t you worried the pope is going to get a foothold in California?I don’t believe in the pope, but I felt McClintock was the best candidate for Governor and Lt. Governor and felt he was the republican candidate who happened to be Catholic. The same for Romney. I am not voting for him in the primary because I think he is a RINO at worst, and a johnny come latey to conservativism at best. However, he is not in some closed room meeting of the Mormons to take over the world. Pan_Yans Wife that is black helicopter politics.
As a programmer by trade, I see areas in calculations where the conundrum of 2 + 2 = 5 comes into play quite forcefully. Particularly in scientific calculations, one has to be quite sure that the computer comes up with 5 when the input variables are both 2.
Hence the following geek-joke:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/60f5/
“Mitt is my choice because of the kind of leader he is, not the kind of Church he prays in.”
I have to respect that. Think about this. If LDS republicans in Florida decided to stay home because Hatch didn’t win Al Gore would have become president. That is what a coalition is all about. I am sure you will vote for thompson,Hunter,Rudy, or Newt if they get the Nod. Stay home and let Hillary win. What nonsense.Finaly, The Muslim argument is just plain old fashion religous bigotry.
“There are vast areas where we are in agreement.”
Yahoo, FReeper pal. Yahoo!
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