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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today

May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins

“I wouldn’t vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States!” There’s a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring – as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from America’s so-called “Christian right”. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?

There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma – John F. Kennedy – only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: “. . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.” John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFK’s speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been “whistlin’ Dixie”. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.

According to Media Matters for America - “. . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media” - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). “Among many conservative evangelicals – who comprise a significant part of the Republican base – Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult.” Media Matters for America (2007)

While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: “You, sir, you’re a pretender. You do not know the Lord. You’re a Mormon.” Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign – as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone who’s interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy – all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions – you know, the guys on bikes – and during their mission they don’t date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays – reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy”. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a year’s supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishop’s Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, what’s not to love?

So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitt’s book, “Mormon in the White House?” he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):

1) “It is just too weird.

2) “A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons’ missionary work.

3) “If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues.” Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)

Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the “Mormon problem.” It’s a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes – unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances – none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)

Well, I’m no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; he’s an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (I’ve seen him in action in Sacramento); he’s brilliant; he’s well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus he’s kind of cute. I’m basically a “nobody” – an overweight grandma – but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romney’s religion of choice: It’s all about money, power and control (in that order). I think they’re (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).

As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. “You will know them by their fruit” and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.

Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy – just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.

Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit he’d been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a “cult” that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, there’s big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CD’s, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. We’re talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.

The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers – million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)

It’s nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since it’s inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, let’s stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed “that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, “They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . .” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)

During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.

In an event known in LDS history as “the Haun’s Mill Massacre”, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. “A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder.” LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.

In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the “unfortunate developments” it caused. Quoting from Governor Bond’s Executive Order: “WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . .” Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.

I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (“A Call for Unity”) in which they criticize King’s tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack – made worse because he’s stuck in jail and can’t confront the religious leaders face-to-face – his response is gentle genius. “I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)

King has a few choice words for the Church, too: “If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)

King signs off with “Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood”.

There’s an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.

A few popular bumper stickers read: “Honk if you love Jesus” and “Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven” or “Jesus is my co-pilot”. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romney’s run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.

References

ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.

Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.

Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.

Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm

Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org

Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57

Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002


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Comment #1,641 Removed by Moderator

To: colorcountry

Please reread my post. I clearly stated that this thread is an exception. Frankly, I think the original post was a tad too provocative.


1,642 posted on 05/09/2007 3:58:13 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: restornu
you missed the point Lucifer tried to over throw Heavenly Father take the throne of God

"I will exalt my throne above the stars of God" (Is. 14:13) = a thrown above the stars, but not necessarily above God. The next verse he talks about ascending above the clouds, but not above God. He doesn't say, "I will be above the Most High," but rather: "I will be like the Most High."

Now if it was quite troublesome (and evicting) to God for one of His up-until-then perfect angelic leaders to issue a grab for divinity, how do you think God fills when a not-so-perfect mere mortal makes a grasp for divinity?

Lucifer wasn't necessarily overthrowing God's throne as much as attempting to add another throne somewhere in the heavenlies--above the stars & clouds.

It was this plan to be on the same level playing field that got this response from God: "Thy pomp is brought down to the grave...How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground..." (Is. 14:11-12)

1,643 posted on 05/09/2007 3:58:28 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: restornu; DelphiUser
That is a silly question God is there is no other!

Tell that to Delphi.

1,644 posted on 05/09/2007 3:58:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: tantiboh

sorry...I was a little quick on the trigger. I guess you already know this isn’t a Romney thread.


1,645 posted on 05/09/2007 3:58:44 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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To: colorcountry

NP


1,646 posted on 05/09/2007 4:00:45 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh; restornu
Does that stand for New Poster?

Just kidding. : ) I ran into some problems with resty over FM and BBL. Now I can add NP to my repertoire of FReepspeech.

1,647 posted on 05/09/2007 4:03:25 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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To: colorcountry

I don’t know if it’s FReepspeech; I just always assumed it meant “no problem.”


1,649 posted on 05/09/2007 4:04:25 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: Sherman Logan; P-Marlowe; greyfoxx39
When someone makes an assertion like the following, they haven't much of a clue regarding the way the Israelis are able to use DNA to trace descendants of the twelve tribes all over the world: I would not expect them to be able to find anything because DNA tracking does not work that way. The poster has thus implied that the Israelis are not finding what they are surely finding because the Israeli's methods are not making a connection to Native Americans for the LDS researchers who cannot find evidence to support Joe Smith's big lie. I think we have another dancing hamster ...
1,650 posted on 05/09/2007 4:04:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: RECONRICK

Ooh... premature fire...


1,651 posted on 05/09/2007 4:05:00 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: Colofornian

It has always to be God plan to grant joint heirs to those who quality!

You keep misusing the word “perfect” as in flawless, and that is not how the Lord uses this word, it is the way the world uses this word but Heavenly Father difinition meaning complete!

God was always sinless as was his Son Jesus Christ also who was sinless!

Hebrew 11
40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. (complete)


1,652 posted on 05/09/2007 4:15:29 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: colorcountry; tantiboh

NP= no problem!


1,653 posted on 05/09/2007 4:30:33 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

“You’re a particularly easy target.”

And you are Invincibly Ignorant


1,654 posted on 05/09/2007 4:37:45 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: restornu

“You are wrong!! The ball that led Lehi was made of steel!

So why could not the sword be made of steel? Since we see now steel is present!:)”

I’m playing with you, restornu. The steel is referenced as a logical trap.


1,656 posted on 05/09/2007 4:41:05 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: P-Marlowe; restornu; Truth-Miner; sevenbak; Utah Girl; All
Then obviously LDS Doctrine has changed in the last 40 years.

Or you never did understand, I was around and in the church 40 years ago, it has not changed, Hmm what was the other option (see my prior post about you setting a “TRAP”

O Contraire'. To even acknowledge that there might be a God above our God or a God besides our God could be very detrimental to your eternal destination.

First Corinthians 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But, these “Gods” are not our God. The have no effect on us we do not have anything to do with them.

God leaves no room for other Gods either before him, after him or contemporaneous to him. There is one God. Not simply one God for us. But one God, period. You will not become a god or a God or a GOD. You have God's word on that one.

Exedous 20:33 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. He didn’t say they did not exist, but that we were not to worship them. We don’t. Their existence does not threaten God’s authority over us. Does you neighbor being a father threaten your authority over your children? Does your DAD? Your assertion here is ludicrous on the face of it.

Answer this one question: Does the LDS Church teach that God "became" God by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel?

God Is, we are his children, this the church teaches. We can progress to become like him, this the church teaches. It is logical to assume that if we can become as God, God progressed to his current state from ours, but it is merely a logical construct and No, the church does not teach it. It is however discussed by the members as a very logical conclusion to come to.

So the simple answer is, No, the church does not teach it, but it is probably true anyway.

I'm looking for clarity. I'm not baiting you, I just want you to explain what it is that you believe.

Me personally? Yes, I believe That God was once a man and before time itself was started by him he “Became” God.

despite the fact that you have a 130 year history of expressly teaching that doctrine

It has never been Church Doctrine that God was a man and progressed to be a God, there was a couplet, and much discussion, but God doesn’t think we need a revelation on that because it’s not directly necessary for our salvation.

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

(Arnold voice from Twins--) You stop to soon!

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Yes, Jesus is the only God who will ever be created on this earth. He is all we need to focus on and all we need to worry about emulating.

How does that square with LDS beliefs?

Absolutely fine.

In Utah, they raise some turkeys, when you raise turkeys, you have to keep them in a round pen because if there is thunder, or some loud noise they will all run into a corner and suffocate themselves, but in a round pen, they run until they get tired and sleep it off.

You guys remind me of a bunch of turkeys (It’s just too easy) you all keep trying to run into corners and suffocate. We keep directing you away from the corners and you acuse us of misdirection, but we are just trying to keep you turkeys from hurting yourselves.

(Man, that was a fun analogy, and true too).

I’ve got to go play with my kids, see you all later.
1,657 posted on 05/09/2007 4:43:18 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry

“I will not vote for Romney, ever. I am an extreme case perhaps, but the danger to a society that would accept Romney’s beliefs is more damaging to this country than four years of the witch. In the long run, the mainstreaming of Mormonism is dangerous - as dangerous as Islamicism taking over the White House, it is an affront to God. That is my personal opinion. If I must eat my words, they will remain sweet to my immortal soul.”

That is where I stand too colorcountry. The chaos that is this thread is as nothing to what ten years of a Romney presidency would become.


1,658 posted on 05/09/2007 4:46:34 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

You couldn’t shine II booths he left you burried in the Looney dust!:)


1,659 posted on 05/09/2007 4:48:20 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: DelphiUser
Yes, I believe That God was once a man and before time itself was started by him he “Became” God.

How did he become a "man" before time began?

Was he a "man" on another planet who "became" God after going through a mortal test on an earth like ours?

Gosh I think we may be moving towards some clarity here.

1,660 posted on 05/09/2007 4:48:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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