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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today

May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins

“I wouldn’t vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States!” There’s a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring – as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from America’s so-called “Christian right”. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?

There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma – John F. Kennedy – only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: “. . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.” John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFK’s speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been “whistlin’ Dixie”. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.

According to Media Matters for America - “. . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media” - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). “Among many conservative evangelicals – who comprise a significant part of the Republican base – Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult.” Media Matters for America (2007)

While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: “You, sir, you’re a pretender. You do not know the Lord. You’re a Mormon.” Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign – as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone who’s interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy – all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions – you know, the guys on bikes – and during their mission they don’t date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays – reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy”. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a year’s supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishop’s Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, what’s not to love?

So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitt’s book, “Mormon in the White House?” he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):

1) “It is just too weird.

2) “A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons’ missionary work.

3) “If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues.” Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)

Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the “Mormon problem.” It’s a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes – unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances – none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)

Well, I’m no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; he’s an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (I’ve seen him in action in Sacramento); he’s brilliant; he’s well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus he’s kind of cute. I’m basically a “nobody” – an overweight grandma – but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romney’s religion of choice: It’s all about money, power and control (in that order). I think they’re (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).

As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. “You will know them by their fruit” and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.

Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy – just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.

Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit he’d been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a “cult” that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, there’s big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CD’s, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. We’re talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.

The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers – million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)

It’s nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since it’s inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, let’s stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed “that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, “They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . .” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)

During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.

In an event known in LDS history as “the Haun’s Mill Massacre”, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. “A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder.” LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.

In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the “unfortunate developments” it caused. Quoting from Governor Bond’s Executive Order: “WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . .” Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.

I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (“A Call for Unity”) in which they criticize King’s tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack – made worse because he’s stuck in jail and can’t confront the religious leaders face-to-face – his response is gentle genius. “I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)

King has a few choice words for the Church, too: “If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)

King signs off with “Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood”.

There’s an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.

A few popular bumper stickers read: “Honk if you love Jesus” and “Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven” or “Jesus is my co-pilot”. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romney’s run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.

References

ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.

Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.

Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.

Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm

Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org

Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57

Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002


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To: Saundra Duffy

So you aren’t a member of the religious right?

You aren’t a Conservative Republican?

What are you doing here, then?


121 posted on 05/04/2007 8:07:16 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I’ll be honest. I have trouble seeing myself voting for someone who wears magic underwear.


122 posted on 05/04/2007 8:07:23 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: DugwayDuke
I would like for you to explain what the Mormon religion thinks about other Christian religions? Do they exist? Can there be a Christian religion outside the Mormon church? Is theology of these other Christian religions doctrinally sound? If the Mormon religions claims that these other theologies are unsound, then they are claiming that these other religions are not Christian. How does this differ from the claims you attribute to those evangelical leaders?

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1) They believe other religions ( Christian and **non-Christian**, too) often and usually have much truth. They simply do not have all the truth, or as much of the truth as Mormons do. In fact, Mormons believe that further truth can and will be revealed, so, they themselves are not yet in full possession of the truth.

2) Yes, other Christian churches exist, but, do not have the “fullness of the gospel”.

3) Yes, other Christian churches exist outside of the Mormon church. See #2.

4) The theology of other Christian churches is most often theologically sound. There are some differences ( for instance some Christian beliefs and the Mormon’s conception of the Trinity)

5) That other Christian churches do not share every belief of the Mormons does NOT make them non-Christian. If a person accepts Christ as their Savior, they are Christian.

6) I can’t speak for other evangelical leaders.

123 posted on 05/04/2007 8:07:40 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: sittnick
Which presidents were Unitarian?
124 posted on 05/04/2007 8:10:35 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: JRochelle

I have seen them at many such events and they do not appear mythological.


125 posted on 05/04/2007 8:11:54 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Paulus Invictus

Perhaps it’s a Western thing? Don’t most Mormons live in the West?


126 posted on 05/04/2007 8:13:29 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: Theophilus
purports to be Christianity in face of every historical definition.

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Hm...?

Mormons believe in the Virgin Birth,and that Christ is the literal Son of God. They beleive that Christ calls all to repentance in His Name, and that salvation and eternal life is only possible through Him. They believe in the atonement of our sins by Christ, and literal resurrection of Christ. The uphold the New Testament.

Geeze! ...This looks like a walking, talking Christian duck to me?

127 posted on 05/04/2007 8:14:34 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime
Geeze!

Some of them at least, also appear to believe in taking the Lord's name in vain.

128 posted on 05/04/2007 8:16:05 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: wintertime

Christian faiths will not be exhalted like the Mormons, because the Mormons believe they are the one true faith.

Why, then, would the Christians want to accept Mormonism as true, when the Mormons don’t view the Christians the same way in kind?

I’ve never had a Methodist say to me, “You’re wrong!” But, I have had Mormons say that to me. A Methodist is not threatened because the mainstream Protestant faiths are very similar.

The same cannot be said for Baptists or Methodists believing what the Mormons say is true faith.


129 posted on 05/04/2007 8:18:24 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Or visit any Christian bookstore to find many anti-Mormon books of all kinds.

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Wow! Isn’t that the truth!

I used to buy my children’s Saxon Math Books at our local Christian book store. There was as whole shelf devoted to anti-Mormon literature.

By the way, this particular bookstore did not prosper and was out of business in less than 5 years.

130 posted on 05/04/2007 8:18:37 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime

Since “faith” is defined in the LDS universe as:

” “If ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true” (Alma 32:21). Faith is a principle of action and power. Whenever we work toward a worthy goal, we exercise faith. We show our hope for something that we cannot yet see.” [from lds.org gospel topics]

Then I propose the following list of things that Mormons in good standing (Mitt) better have “faith” in:

- disappearing golden plates that weren’t even always present [and they were necessary why exactly?]

- a first vision by Joseph Smith where he actually became the only human in all of known history to see God (and live)...and that the final version (written years after the event) is the ‘whole’ truth

- a polygamy-loving polygamist God [or else a lot of past LDS leaders are in big trouble...after all the God of the Bible can be one angry dude]

- a planet/star named Kolob where God resides

- a lost papyrus that was the ‘real’ papyrus used for the Book of Abraham [that contradicts all egyptologists’ current knowledge]

- that there is absolutely no corruption with all that tithing money in hands of humans

- that God really wanted a new conference center instead of more/better meetinghouse [so that there wouldn’t have to be two or more units in a bldg], or a new mall instead of alms for the poor

- that Brigham Young really was the chosen successor to Joseph Smith [or else the RLDS got it right]

- that all other Christian Churches REALLY are wrong

- that the Bible REALLY is corrupt [the lds church just haven’t pinpointed and/or published the list of corrupt verses yet]

- that Heavenly Father REALLY directed numerous changes to a ‘restored’ temple ceremony

- that Heavenly Father actually directed the changes to let blacks have the priesthood [vs. lds leadership just caving in to external pressure]

- that Utah Statehood didn’t have anything to do with the Manifesto to stop polygamy...Heavenly Father just changed his mind

- that Nephite/Lamanite archaeological evidence just hasn’t been discovered yet

- that a language called reformed Egyptian existed

- that MesoAmerican metalurgy existed (other than soft metals)

On the other hand, here’s a list of Things that they don’t have to rely on “faith” for....these actually exist:

- the bones of the murdered victims of MMM

- the record of the ages of the wives [at the time of marriage] of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Parley P Pratt, etc etc

- the bank notes from Kirtland

- the record of the changes made to the “most perfect book” [BofM]

- the factual translation of the Book of Abraham pappyri

- actual peepstones [in the possession of the lds church]

- the written transcript of the Reed Smoot hearings

- the arrest records of JS for glass-looking

Call me a bigot if you will. But I won’t vote for a President deluded enough to fit this bill.

I left the LDS Church at great personal peril. Either Mitt is ignorant of the facts of Mormonism, or he doesn’t have the personal intergrity to admit it is a farce, or he belives the doctrine with all his heart. Any of those reasons for Mitt being Mormon are enough for me to not only vote against him, but openly campaign against him.

Let the flames begin.


131 posted on 05/04/2007 8:18:59 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: wintertime
I've not seen the literature in question, but being Baptist myself, I suspect a less slanderous statement would be Anti Mormonism literature. I also suspect that a more accurate description would be literature that points out what Baptists believe to be errors in Mormon Doctrine.
Just a guess...
132 posted on 05/04/2007 8:19:33 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: colorcountry; Saundra Duffy; MHGinTN
Saundra you haven’t been in the Church long enough to be familiar with the pride Mormons had in being a “peculiar” people,

Apparently Saundra thinks that Mormonism is just a superior brand of Protestantism. That seems to be the emphasis that the TV Commercials portray. But as you and I both know, that is all smoke and mirrors.

When I grew up we Mormons proudly separated ourselves from all other churches. We did not attempt to identify with them. We were not like them. We were better than them. We had the one true religion and they were all following false religions.

I would never have said "I'm a Christian, too." That was not in the Mormon vocabulary 30 years ago. Apparently the LDS marketing department decided that being a "peculiar church" did not work as well as being a "better church". So the LDS marketing strategy now seems to be to try to sell the Mormons as another, but a superior Christian denomination. "We're Heineken and all the other denominations are store brand."

But no matter how you slice it, Mormonism is not just another denomination. It is a wholly different religion than historical Christianity. Mormons used to be proud of that fact. Now they are apparently embarrassed by it. I suppose that is a step in the right direction.

133 posted on 05/04/2007 8:20:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: JRochelle

Another myth.
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Well, I saw with my own mythological eyes.


134 posted on 05/04/2007 8:20:40 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Theophilus
Would you vote for an atheist?

Whether he is an atheist or not would not play into my decision. My vote is based on the person's positions on issues.

Does the truth about God and man matter to you?

Absolutely. But I'd much rather vote for a pro-life atheist than one who claims to be Christian but has no problem killing babies.

Mormonism is worse than a mere cult

Then don't be a Mormon. I'm not one. But I wouldn't refuse to vote for someone merely because they are a Mormon. Anyone who does that is a loon.

As a Christian I believe that government officials are "ministers of God".

Indeed, they are. Read the bible. Even those who opposed Israel were chosen by God to do so. And when they weren't, God lead Israel to wipe them out.

A Mormon President would be a minister of a false god.

Again, God uses the leaders of countries to accomplish His will. (See previous comment.)

If you don't think your vote will be judged by the God who judges "every idle word", think again.

Of course it will be. That's why I vote based on their positions on issues.

135 posted on 05/04/2007 8:22:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

An honest question:

Would you overlook Romney’s very, very liberal record as Governor of Massachusetts if he were, say, Baptist?


136 posted on 05/04/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A [Free] Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: P-Marlowe

I am not blind, and I am literate.

It is impossible to miss the headlines and titles. They were vicious and hateful enough for a lifetime.


137 posted on 05/04/2007 8:24:49 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime

Where do you live?

I have never seen an antimormon book at my local christian bookstore.

Of course I know of no local mormon church here.

It could very well be a regional thing.


138 posted on 05/04/2007 8:25:36 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: wintertime
It is impossible to miss the headlines and titles. They were vicious and hateful enough for a lifetime.

What were the headlines and titles? It seems to be something vividly etched into your mind. What headline or title could do that?

139 posted on 05/04/2007 8:27:12 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wintertime
is the literal Son of God.
Check a bit into just WHO this god is, or even better, once was.
140 posted on 05/04/2007 8:28:23 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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