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Mr. McWhorter is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
1 posted on 05/03/2007 2:41:22 PM PDT by neverdem
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"Senator Clinton floated the idea that we should spend 10 billion dollars over a five year period on schools and teachers in poor nations."

Senator Clinton should top off the tank in her broom and fly away.

2 posted on 05/03/2007 2:44:58 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: neverdem
Convictions are not always based on the rational: Recently, I met two PhD candidates in linguistics who are avowed creationists.

Excuse me?

3 posted on 05/03/2007 2:48:25 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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"On Tuesday, Senator Clinton floated the idea that we should spend 10 billion dollars over a five year period on schools and teachers in poor nations. The justification for this being that such schools could give children an alternative to the anti-Americanism they are so often steeped in these days."

We are doing that in Afghanistan and Iraq right this moment but you won't fund it without loads of pork and politically driven agenda troop withdrawal time lines. And we first need to address the Anti-Americanism in our own liberal schools.

4 posted on 05/03/2007 2:48:38 PM PDT by avacado
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People hate whoever they envy. They’ll hate white people forever.


5 posted on 05/03/2007 2:49:13 PM PDT by D.P.Roberts (Doing my part to build Uh-merica)
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“that the way to stop Third Worlders from hating America is to build schools in their countries, they need to think again”

What happens if I like to be hated.

Seriously, the French hate me but I have relatives buried in French soil who died fighting wars for them.

The Chinese hate me because I am a “Hedgemon” but that’s all I did was oppose their expansionist policies.

The Mexicans hate me because I oppose their illegal entry into this country.

This could go on and on and on but you got the point — I hope.

6 posted on 05/03/2007 2:50:07 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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7 posted on 05/03/2007 2:51:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: neverdem
Stop The Hate!


8 posted on 05/03/2007 2:55:41 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Jeezo peezo. Doesn’t anyone remember the “Yanqui Go Home” demonstrations from the fifties and sixties? We have been hated for a long time. Doesn’t stop people from coming here...but that is mere detail.

The reason they hate us is that they want our stuff. All of it. They can’t figure out how we got it and have come to the eroneous conclusion that we robbed them of it. Look at the Arabs blaming our foreign policy for their troubles. What shoud we do? Stop buying their oil? I could get behind that but I doubt that the result would resemble a resurgence of Arab culture. More like an economic depression that would leave nothing but camel burgers on their table. Goat hash, if you will.


14 posted on 05/03/2007 3:21:14 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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Our public schools teach our own kids to hate America. Why should the rest of the world be any different?


16 posted on 05/03/2007 3:23:04 PM PDT by Argus
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To: neverdem
She might be on to something, except we should start at home first.
17 posted on 05/03/2007 3:25:25 PM PDT by Rogle
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Hillary is making the same mistake most politicians, and especially Liberals, make. She thinks that we can ‘change the world’ and ‘make them love us’. She, and others, fail to recognize that most people in other countries cannot and will not be changed. They will instinctively resist change, growth, modernity and freedom. She wants to throw money at a problem that is rooted in culture, not lack of cash.

Take Darfur... Liberals have the Save Darfur campaign. This campaign fails to recognize that NOTHING the West ever does or can do will actually address and fix the root causes of that problem. NOTHING. Conflict, tribalism and warfare are part of their DNA. We in the West can’t fix that.

Likewise, we can’t make foreigners love us by throwing cash at them. They’ll take the cash, but culturally its compulsory to hate the USA. No amount of cash will ever change that.


21 posted on 05/03/2007 3:40:01 PM PDT by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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Actually, she may have a good idea here, just not the way she would like to implement it.

That is, imagine if you will, a very large publishing company as a subsidiary to the Voice of America. Its purpose would be to publish durable elementary and secondary school textbooks for wide distribution in nations that are in our “interest” at the time.

That is, right now, if we had such a program, we would be giving huge numbers of these school textbooks to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not only would it give these two countries a big jump in literacy and education, but the books could be filled with respectively democratic, patriotic, nationalistic messages. Along with their studies the books would teach their national history, and be very optimistic about the future course of their nations.

Nationalism is very important as part of education, as it gets the kids thinking of themselves as national citizens first, instead of their tribal, sectarian, and regional identities.

Right now, in Afghanistan and Iraq, there is a crying need for *any* school supplies, even pens and pencils. By being prepared to step in and provide such supplies, we seize the opportunity to educate an entire generation of that nation’s people.

This could save us enormous heartburn in the future. And maybe even help create a nation friendlier to us in the long run.


22 posted on 05/03/2007 3:44:55 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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It isnt bad enough that liberal Demoncrats want to keep tossing Billion into our own toilet school system. NOW they want to dump Billions into foreign toilet school systems.


23 posted on 05/03/2007 3:47:07 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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Ping


26 posted on 05/03/2007 4:09:53 PM PDT by rogue yam
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In my opinion, micro loans to entrepreneurs is the only thing that will lift up Africa out of it’s miserable condition. Anything else would have to go through corrupt governments and left-leaning Nongovernmental Organizations (NGOs).
28 posted on 05/03/2007 4:17:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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“How about — take a deep breath — eliminating the subsidies to American farmers that keep Third World farmers from being able to make a living selling their products?”

See? Even smart people say the dumbest things. While he may know a lot, farming isn’t one of those areas. Subsidies cripple farming because they support large corporate operations and processors. The family farmer is actually harmed by the subsidies and market restrictions.
Having said that, flooding the US market with third world food is probably the most stupid, shortsighted, HUA move we could make. There is nothing more strategic than a safe food supply. Didn’t the recent China pet food, poultry feed additive tell this guy anything? Didn’t the lack of inspections tell him anything? Didn’t the fact the Chinese company shipped their poison through a front company as non food products tell this guy anything?
When will he wake up?
Now, as for the money angle. What ivory tower idiot presumes these third world farmers will be playing on a level field with US ones? Pesticide restrictions? Fertilizer quality? Dumping food on the market to drive down costs before jacking them back up? Slave labor?
I assume the senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute eats only in restaurants and thinks food comes from the kitchen.

Oh, by the way Hillary’s idea sucks. Lets give 10 billion of OUR dollars away so they will like us. I don’t see her giving any of her money away. No vow of poverty for the elite.
Sorry for the rant. I hate it when our side is uninformed.

33 posted on 05/03/2007 4:31:45 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: neverdem

They spend billions now and teach Anti Americanism here.


38 posted on 05/03/2007 4:54:22 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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No matter how well it is disguised, this article is simply another installment in the fiction that it is America’s past policies that are fueling the hatred and if we could just get the policies right, the hatred would stop. (No! The problem is not about building class rooms, you idiot! It’s about cutting the subsidies to American farmers!)

Yes, if we could just get the policies right, then Mr. McWhorter could go back to being popular at drinks when he is in Europe.

(You realize, of course, that it is not too far between this thinking and Professor Ward Churchill’s sentiment that the WTC was full of “little Eichmanns” that deserved to die.)

41 posted on 05/03/2007 5:20:14 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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Does any self respecting country want an education system that the liberal democrats created for this country? Lets dump more money into schooling of foreign countries so they will like us again, BRILLIANT! We have dumped huge amounts of money into an education system that is on its way down the toilet. Fix the problem you created first before you poison others! Dummie crats!


43 posted on 05/03/2007 5:36:23 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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“How about — take a deep breath — eliminating the subsidies to American farmers that keep Third World farmers from being able to make a living selling their products?”

Third-world farmers are mostly engaged in subsistance agriculture and do not produce an exportable surplus. We import a lot of agricultural products from the third world (coffee, bananas, sugar, mangos, etc,) which are largely the product of large plantations.
47 posted on 05/03/2007 6:09:30 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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