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Never mind sex in space; what about death up there?
SignOnSanDiego.com ^ | May 2, 2007 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 05/02/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

Never mind sex in space; what about death up there?

ASSOCIATED PRESS

May 2, 2007

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. – How do you get rid of the body of a dead astronaut on a three-year mission to Mars and back?

When should the plug be pulled on a critically ill astronaut who is using up precious oxygen and endangering the rest of the crew? Should NASA employ DNA testing to weed out astronauts who might get a disease on a long flight?

With NASA planning to land on Mars 30 years from now, and with the recent discovery of the most “Earth-like” planet ever seen outside the solar system, the space agency has begun to ponder some of the thorny practical and ethical questions posed by deep space exploration. Some of these who-gets-thrown-from-the-lifeboat questions are outlined in a NASA document on crew health obtained by The Associated Press through a Freedom of Information Act request.

NASA doctors and scientists, with help from outside bioethicists and medical experts, hope to answer many of these questions over the next several years.

“As you can imagine, it's a thing that people aren't really comfortable talking about,” said Dr. Richard Williams, NASA's chief health and medical officer. “We're trying to develop the ethical framework to equip commanders and mission managers to make some of those difficult decisions should they arrive in the future.”

One topic that is evidently too hot to handle: How do you cope with sexual desire among healthy young men and women during a mission years long?

Sex is not mentioned in the document and has long been almost a taboo topic at NASA. Williams said the question of sex in space is not a matter of crew health but a behavioral issue that will have to be taken up by others at NASA.

The document does spell out some health policies in detail, such as how much radiation astronauts can be exposed to from space travel (no more radiation than the amount that would increase the risk of cancer by 3 percent over the astronaut's career) and the number of hours crew members should work each week (no more than 48 hours).

But on other topics – such as steps for disposing of the dead and cutting off an astronaut's medical care if he or she cannot survive – the document merely says these are issues for which NASA needs a policy.

“There may come a time in which a significant risk of death has to be weighed against mission success,” Wolpe said. “The idea that we will always choose a person's well-being over mission success, it sounds good, but it doesn't really turn out to be necessarily the way decisions always will be made.”

For now, astronauts and cosmonauts who become critically sick or injured at the International Space Station – something that has never happened – can leave the orbiting outpost 220 miles above Earth and return home within hours aboard a Russian Soyuz space vehicle.

That wouldn't be possible if a life-and-death situation were to arise on a voyage to Mars, where the nearest hospital is millions of miles away.

Moreover, Mars-bound astronauts will not always be able to rely on instructions from Mission Control, since it would take nearly a half-hour for a question to be asked and an answer to come back via radio.

NASA will consider whether astronauts must undergo preventive surgery, such as an appendectomy, to head off medical emergencies during a mission, and whether astronauts should be required to sign living wills with end-of-life instructions.

The space agency also must decide whether to set age restrictions on the crew, and whether astronauts of reproductive age should be required to bank sperm or eggs because of the risk of genetic mutations from radiation exposure during long trips.

Already, NASA is considering genetic screening in choosing crews on the long-duration missions. That is now prohibited.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlock; astronaunts; mars; missioncontrol; nasa; science; space; spavetravel; technology; thefinalfrontier; zerogravity
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To: antiRepublicrat

would it be discriminatory to not have fertile females on the ship? Perhaps have only older women among the women astronauts on a long trip?


41 posted on 05/02/2007 10:18:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: xsmommy

You missed the “Spider Bite Boner” thread yesterday.


42 posted on 05/02/2007 10:18:36 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Actually, even flaccid Mr.Goofy would be at attention in zero-G.


43 posted on 05/02/2007 10:19:10 AM PDT by paddles
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To: DogByte6RER
How do you get rid of the body of a dead astronaut on a three-year mission to Mars and back?

Ron Popiel's Soylent-O-Matic!

44 posted on 05/02/2007 10:20:47 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DogByte6RER
People will pay good money to be buried in space.
45 posted on 05/02/2007 10:20:56 AM PDT by Hatteras (I'm a sweetheart, genius, a reckless jerk. Lord have mercy, I'm a piece of work...)
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To: DogByte6RER

One word:

ZipLok


46 posted on 05/02/2007 10:23:06 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Spktyr
Failing that, wrap the corpse in a tarp or similar material and secure it to the outside of the orbiter hull until you're about to reenter earth orbit...

Hey, it worked for Chevy Chase, right?

47 posted on 05/02/2007 10:23:34 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: umbagi
It depends... Are we talking about a regular crew member, or an expendable "red shirt"?

No worries...they never make it past the first act anyway.

48 posted on 05/02/2007 10:25:17 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: DogByte6RER; CholeraJoe; wagglebee

Amundson and his sled dogs beat Scott and his tractors to the South Pole, because you can’t eat tractors.


49 posted on 05/02/2007 10:26:52 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: gogeo

NL Vacation references aside, that’s actually been used in SF for about 60 years, for when burial in space isn’t an option for various reasons and the vessel is too small to store the corpse in an out-of-the-way location.


50 posted on 05/02/2007 10:28:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: paddles

I always wanted to know what a fart would do in zero gravity. That could be a rush.


51 posted on 05/02/2007 10:28:54 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
LOL!!

GOOD ONE!!

52 posted on 05/02/2007 10:29:22 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: metmom

Space exploration will always be at its heart a military endeavor. There is all sorts of “moral relativism” that goes on in dangerous military exercise.


53 posted on 05/02/2007 10:30:18 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: CholeraJoe
Dunno, but maybe these guys would be able to figure it out...
54 posted on 05/02/2007 10:35:42 AM PDT by mikrofon (Science!)
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To: DogByte6RER; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


55 posted on 05/02/2007 10:35:47 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Spktyr

I dunno... A cloud of freeze-dried cadavers orbiting our system might discourage hostile aliens from messing with us.


56 posted on 05/02/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: EscapedDutch

There was a married couple that went up in the late 90’s, and there are rumors that, since they had children, the only reason both would go on the same mission would be for studies on sex in space. One of the more verbose conjectures I read were that they used a contraption with a few velcro restraints to try and counteract the inertia, and that it focused on “other” sex acts that don’t involve as much recoil.


57 posted on 05/02/2007 10:37:17 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty (Islam delenda est)
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To: Age of Reason

My ex-wife’s grand father was a gold prospector in Alaska about 1901 or so. He wrote a book about his experiences. One interesting comment in his book was you could always tell when there had been a rough winter when you saw a lot of sled dogs with no tails. Apparently it was a common practice when food got short, to have dog tail soup. If you killed your dogs, you would not get out.


58 posted on 05/02/2007 10:37:36 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: magslinger
Have they considered freeze drying?

Zactly, troll it behind the spacecraft for a few days, place the remains in a shoebox and bring it back.

59 posted on 05/02/2007 10:42:25 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Age of Reason

Why do you think Lewis and Clark switched from boats to horses and dogs?


60 posted on 05/02/2007 10:46:47 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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