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Never mind sex in space; what about death up there?
SignOnSanDiego.com ^ | May 2, 2007 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 05/02/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

Never mind sex in space; what about death up there?

ASSOCIATED PRESS

May 2, 2007

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. – How do you get rid of the body of a dead astronaut on a three-year mission to Mars and back?

When should the plug be pulled on a critically ill astronaut who is using up precious oxygen and endangering the rest of the crew? Should NASA employ DNA testing to weed out astronauts who might get a disease on a long flight?

With NASA planning to land on Mars 30 years from now, and with the recent discovery of the most “Earth-like” planet ever seen outside the solar system, the space agency has begun to ponder some of the thorny practical and ethical questions posed by deep space exploration. Some of these who-gets-thrown-from-the-lifeboat questions are outlined in a NASA document on crew health obtained by The Associated Press through a Freedom of Information Act request.

NASA doctors and scientists, with help from outside bioethicists and medical experts, hope to answer many of these questions over the next several years.

“As you can imagine, it's a thing that people aren't really comfortable talking about,” said Dr. Richard Williams, NASA's chief health and medical officer. “We're trying to develop the ethical framework to equip commanders and mission managers to make some of those difficult decisions should they arrive in the future.”

One topic that is evidently too hot to handle: How do you cope with sexual desire among healthy young men and women during a mission years long?

Sex is not mentioned in the document and has long been almost a taboo topic at NASA. Williams said the question of sex in space is not a matter of crew health but a behavioral issue that will have to be taken up by others at NASA.

The document does spell out some health policies in detail, such as how much radiation astronauts can be exposed to from space travel (no more radiation than the amount that would increase the risk of cancer by 3 percent over the astronaut's career) and the number of hours crew members should work each week (no more than 48 hours).

But on other topics – such as steps for disposing of the dead and cutting off an astronaut's medical care if he or she cannot survive – the document merely says these are issues for which NASA needs a policy.

“There may come a time in which a significant risk of death has to be weighed against mission success,” Wolpe said. “The idea that we will always choose a person's well-being over mission success, it sounds good, but it doesn't really turn out to be necessarily the way decisions always will be made.”

For now, astronauts and cosmonauts who become critically sick or injured at the International Space Station – something that has never happened – can leave the orbiting outpost 220 miles above Earth and return home within hours aboard a Russian Soyuz space vehicle.

That wouldn't be possible if a life-and-death situation were to arise on a voyage to Mars, where the nearest hospital is millions of miles away.

Moreover, Mars-bound astronauts will not always be able to rely on instructions from Mission Control, since it would take nearly a half-hour for a question to be asked and an answer to come back via radio.

NASA will consider whether astronauts must undergo preventive surgery, such as an appendectomy, to head off medical emergencies during a mission, and whether astronauts should be required to sign living wills with end-of-life instructions.

The space agency also must decide whether to set age restrictions on the crew, and whether astronauts of reproductive age should be required to bank sperm or eggs because of the risk of genetic mutations from radiation exposure during long trips.

Already, NASA is considering genetic screening in choosing crews on the long-duration missions. That is now prohibited.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlock; astronaunts; mars; missioncontrol; nasa; science; space; spavetravel; technology; thefinalfrontier; zerogravity
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To: DogByte6RER
NASA is not the "be all end all" when it comes to space exploration. Asimov, Clarke, and Heinlein have written about and suggested solutions to these issues.

When Lunar Colonies are established and years long Solar System expeditions are mounted, societal norms will be the guiding light not some NASA rocket scientist.

I remember onevscifi story where the population on a large space station had become divided into two classes. The upper class were the managers and workers while the "lower class" were those who were the "garbage class" since they recycled everything!!! Was a mortician someone who dealt with death? Was a pooptician someone who recycled Sheryl Crow material?? Get the point?

21 posted on 05/02/2007 9:57:06 AM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Ceasar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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To: DogByte6RER

Keeping a Souliman Aktapan around would be less of a hassle.


22 posted on 05/02/2007 9:57:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Genius is the ability to make mistakes faster than the norms.)
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To: DogByte6RER
When should the plug be pulled on a critically ill astronaut

It depends... Are we talking about a regular crew member, or an expendable "red shirt"?

23 posted on 05/02/2007 9:58:18 AM PDT by umbagi
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To: magslinger

Duct tape!


24 posted on 05/02/2007 9:59:56 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: magslinger

Better yet, consider what those guys did with the other passengers when their plane crashed in the Andes. Waste not, want not.


25 posted on 05/02/2007 10:00:17 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Only in this case, "the deep" would be deep space.

You could stuff 'em in a bag and attach them to the outside of the spacecraft. The corpse would freeze dry and keep nicely until you return to Earth.

Less creepy than keeping them on board.

26 posted on 05/02/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: CholeraJoe
Yep, burial at sea, high-tech space style.
27 posted on 05/02/2007 10:01:41 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: CholeraJoe
Bagpipes will not play in a vacuum, have you thought of that?
28 posted on 05/02/2007 10:01:53 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: DogByte6RER
Williams said the question of sex in space is not a matter of crew health

I beg to differ!

29 posted on 05/02/2007 10:04:04 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: EscapedDutch

I think I see a Helen Thomas photo in your future.


30 posted on 05/02/2007 10:05:17 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: ushr435

As far as sexual desire in space, I can see some problems.

Among other things, is there any privacy in space, or does everyone have to do things in front of others?

And what about gay lesbian and pre-op and post-op transgendered astronauts? What accomodations will be made for their special needs on the space ship?


31 posted on 05/02/2007 10:05:24 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: U S Army EOD
Bagpipes will not play in a vacuum, have you thought of that?

At last! Science discovers the remedy for bad pipers!

32 posted on 05/02/2007 10:08:27 AM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: LexBaird

There are good pipers?


33 posted on 05/02/2007 10:12:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: U S Army EOD

In space, no one can hear the bagpipes scream?


34 posted on 05/02/2007 10:13:19 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Can you get a boner in zero-G, I wonder?


35 posted on 05/02/2007 10:14:58 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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To: magslinger
Have they considered freeze drying? Then they could just bring it back. With most of the water gone it would be much lighter and not offend anyone. Might be a bit of a shock if someone opened the wrong closet.

That would be really easy to do in space - just put the body in the vacuum of space tethered to the spacecraft in the shade for a few minutes.

36 posted on 05/02/2007 10:15:14 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
"You could stuff 'em in a bag and attach them to the outside of the spacecraft. The corpse would freeze dry and keep nicely until you return to Earth."

Yeah, just like in "Vacation"...
37 posted on 05/02/2007 10:15:24 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Aw, what the heck - Chaos Now, Serenity Later...)
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To: CholeraJoe

figures i’d find you on a serious thread, thinking deep thoughts....


38 posted on 05/02/2007 10:16:15 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: DogByte6RER
Williams said the question of sex in space is not a matter of crew health but a behavioral issue that will have to be taken up by others at NASA.

I think that could be a health issue given that someone could get pregnant.

39 posted on 05/02/2007 10:16:37 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Group Activity time . . .


40 posted on 05/02/2007 10:17:01 AM PDT by Petruchio (Single, Available, Easy)
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