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Digg losing control of their site (HD-DVD encryption keys were posted)
InfoWorld ^ | May 1, 2007 | Kevin Railsback

Posted on 05/01/2007 8:58:23 PM PDT by HAL9000

Excerpt -

The folks at Digg.com have let the social news genie out of the bottle, and now they can't control it. Since the HD-DVD encryption code was discovered and published, readers at Digg have been repeatedly submitting stories with the 16 digit hex code in the titles and bodies. Just as quickly as these posts crawl up the Digg charts, admins seem to be deleting them.

Just search Google for 09 F9 and you'll find the key. Will AACS send a Cease and Desist to InfoWorld because I posted the text "09 F9"? If so, we might as well give up on this whole Internet thing right here and now.

Can a simple, short string of numbers and letters (the full key) really be copyrighted? And is Digg.com receiving a proper takedown notice for each case, or are they taking things into their own hands and deleting posts willy-nilly?

The same sort of thing happened when the DeCSS code came out - I even have a t-shirt with the code printed on it. This just goes to show how useless the DMCA is, and how information cannot be controlled, and that DRM will never truly work.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: aacs; bluray; copyprotection; crack; decryption; digg; dmca; drm; encryption; hddvd; hollywoodlawyers; mpaa
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To: Star Traveler
Oh, LOL!!!!!
121 posted on 05/02/2007 2:36:51 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: advertising guy; AJMaXx; american colleen; auboy; BallparkBoys; bert; batchewana; BlessedBeGod; ...

HDTV ping list bump... (FYI)


122 posted on 05/02/2007 2:50:21 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: narses
Can they actually trademark/copyright/patent/whatever a hex number sequence?

I don't see why not... You can trademark or copyright a sequence of letters and numbers (i.e. a name, a title, a story or a book) or a sequence of musical notes (i.e. music)... Why not a specific sequence of alphanumeric characters that happens to be an encryption key?

Mark

123 posted on 05/02/2007 3:08:29 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: MarkL
Why not a specific sequence of alphanumeric characters that happens to be an encryption key?

The code lacks the minimal amount of original creative expression needed for copyright.

124 posted on 05/02/2007 4:08:20 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

This is about hackers and theft. Apparently some on this board approve.


125 posted on 05/02/2007 4:15:02 AM PDT by Varda
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"At some point you do want an analog signal. It goes to the speakers and to the picture screen."

Man, you need to get out more often.

Analog is so passe.

My new Chinese speakers say "Digital Ready" right on the box.

126 posted on 05/02/2007 4:16:24 AM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: Varda

“This is about hackers and theft. Apparently some on this board approve.”

Hey, it’s all about free trade. If someone can make it cheaper somewhere else then it’s all good, right? /s


127 posted on 05/02/2007 4:19:35 AM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: Varda
This is about hackers and theft. Apparently some on this board approve.

It is about more than that. There are legitimate uses for the hex code, such as making a backup personal copy of a HD-DVD you purchased in case the original is scratched or otherwise damaged (I have a dog with a thing for chewing on DVD boxes).

Just like a gun is protected by the Second Amendment against the left-wing wackos, the hex code should be protected by the First Amendment against RIAA, MPAA, and the congressional whores who do their bidding by passing unconstitutional laws. 

128 posted on 05/02/2007 4:21:21 AM PDT by peyton randolph (What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
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To: peyton randolph

Excuses for breaking copyright, huh. There are all sorts of things you can’t legally copy or propagate. If that bothers you don’t buy it.


129 posted on 05/02/2007 4:29:04 AM PDT by Varda
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To: gonzo
I have absolutely no idea what this code-stuff is all about.

I'm with you! After I settled down from the excitement of finally getting the code (like the Holy Grail) I then said what is it?

Kinda like getting a car repair manual for Christmas that is written in Russian. First of all I don't work on cars and second I can't read Russian........

130 posted on 05/02/2007 5:23:03 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (How do I remove carbon footprints from my carpeting?)
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To: Varda
Excuses for breaking copyright, huh.

No. Just someone who understands the difference between copyright law and First Amendment speech. Too bad you've bought the MPAA/RIAA line on IP rights.
131 posted on 05/02/2007 5:24:27 AM PDT by peyton randolph (What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
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To: HAL9000

I haven’t read every post butt...

Am I the only one who thinks the code may have been released “accidentally on purpose” to give HD-DVD a boost in the format wars?

If you could copy one format but not the other, which one would you buy?

Just asking...


132 posted on 05/02/2007 5:33:27 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: B-Chan
I agree — and I make my living with intellectual property.

There is a general public perception that record labels and publishers loot the copyrights of the artists who actually produce the "content". What most people don't realize is that people in technical fields are similarly affected. When you take any high-tech job, or contract for one, the "creator" routinely signs away his IP rights to his employer. You come up with a profitable new idea, and someone on Mahogany Row gets a new watchband for his Rolex as he tosses you out on the street and outsources your job to India.

Meanwhile, a lot of basic scientific research has moved off to Asia because American scientists can't do research without tripping over some submariner's all-encompassing patent. It's like walking blindfold through a roomful of rakes.

If Congress can't come up with a way of keeping IP rights in the hands of the people who actually create the work, it's time to bust the system and let our creative instincts run free.

133 posted on 05/02/2007 5:42:43 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: HAL9000


"So the combination is 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard! That's the kind of combination an idiot would put on his luggage!"
134 posted on 05/02/2007 5:53:02 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I have a big carbon footprint and I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: Varda
This is about hackers and theft. Apparently some on this board approve.

I don't condone piracy - and I have the iTunes bills to prove it.

But I'm more worried about the corruption of the legislative and judicial branches by the entertainment industry.

This racket being run by these Hollywood lawyers and their lobbyists is a scam and it needs to be shut down. It would be good for the industry, the artists and the consumers.

Fortunately, some of the smarter companies like EMI and Apple have seen the light and are working to reform the system.

135 posted on 05/02/2007 5:54:17 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
YouTube, song of the week: "Oh Nine, eff Nine".

LOL! Hey, that code sounds pretty good! There are some real creative types out there.

136 posted on 05/02/2007 5:59:00 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: ShadowAce

If any story ever needed a ping....


137 posted on 05/02/2007 6:00:38 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: HAL9000

Having worked on DRM, I can say that it’s far from perfect and most people who work on it are aware of the fact. The state of the technology is such that it is an attempt to keep the honest people honest. These people who posted the keys are unimpressive within the world of hacking.


138 posted on 05/02/2007 6:07:44 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Star Traveler

Kate Bush’s last album had a song on it called “Pi”. It doesn’t cover as many digits, but it’s a little better musically.


139 posted on 05/02/2007 6:09:18 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: fso301
The state of the technology is such that it is an attempt to keep the honest people honest.

That is a worthy goal - but the better way to achieve it is with fair licensing and pricing practices. The current strategy of the entertainment cartel is to keep prices high with an artificial shortage of content via DRM and bad legislation. That strategy is failing. They should adjust their prices, eliminate DRM and make it up on volume.

140 posted on 05/02/2007 6:19:30 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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