Posted on 05/01/2007 12:47:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.
The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.
“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.
“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?
“We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime.
“Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.”
Yup.
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The GOP really does need a serious housecleaning.
See tag line.
Only one man's opinion that "The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request". Even that statement isn't correct based on the two additional cites, which indicate the bill was reintroduced.
As I indicated, Gottlieb's contentions may well be correct, but NO conclusions can be drawn from this article except an insight into Gottlieb's philosophy. This email, and the other two cites, do not establish a connection between the AG and the introduction of S. 1237.
Lautenberg: "It took years, but the Administration finally realized that letting terrorists buy guns is dangerous. This 'terror gap' in our gun laws has been open too long and I am going to shut it down," said Sen. Lautenberg.
[Snip]
Following the GAO report in March 2005, Sen. Lautenberg wrote letters to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and FBI Director Robert Mueller requesting recommendations on existing laws and Department of Justice (DOJ) regulations permitting terrorists to purchase guns and, in response to the Senator's request, the DOJ created a department-wide working group. That working group produced the legislative recommendations that Lautenberg introduced on Thursday.
There's your smoking gun.
And I’ll up you a Fred Thompson :-)
FRegards....
Do you post every left wing rant you find as fact? Here, tell us why we should believe these ones, too
Why right-wingers can't get it up
Did U.S. cut deal to let bin Laden stay free?
They're written by the same liberal clown and posted as rants on the same liberal website that you're using to smear the President.
Back your facts up or be gone, Troll.
CapitolHillBlue is not left wing. They were one of the best sources we had against Clinton.
Terrorists will buy guns if they can. They have already done so! They are legal citizens here. Many are born here.
The GAO reported this:
In January 2005, the Government Accountability Office reported that during one five-month period (Feb. 3-June 30, 2004), people designated by the federal government as “known or suspected terrorists” tried to purchase a total of 44 firearms.
Whoopee. There are an estimated 80 MILLION firearms in this country. If terrorists couldn't get them legally they'd just pay more. It's not worth giving Hillary the power to deem you a "suspected terrorist" because you belong to FreeRepublic.
Take your statist crap elsewhere.
Terrorists DO buy legal weapons. They will continue to do so unless this loophole is closed.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/18/60minutes/main681562.shtml
You gotta be kidding? You are so paranoid that Shrillary will take over that you are willing to let scum buy guns willy nilly?
A statist? What’s that about? You from Mars or what?
This sounds like a conservative?;
Why right-wingers can't get it up
By DOUG THOMPSON
Jul 6, 2006, 00:05
The right-wing's biggest blowhard, radio talk show demagogue Rush Limbaugh, got a walk this week on charges of carrying Viagra without a prescription. His doctor might face charges for mislabeling the bottle of pills found on Limbaugh when he returned from a vacation trip.
The mouth that roared may be off the hook this time around for abusing prescription meds but at least the whole world now knows that the mouthpiece of the rabid right wing needs drugs to get it up.
I'm not surprised to find out Limbaugh is all show and no go. He probably couldn't get hard if Jennifer Garner were sitting on his face while Jeri Ryan noshed on his Johnson. Nah, strike that. Garner and Ryan seem like intelligent women who would never crawl into bed with the likes of Rush Limbaugh.
It's also funny how often the self-righteous right wing gets caught in compromising situations when it comes to sex. Second-string blowhard Bill O'Reilly had to settle out of court with a Fox News producer he harassed and tried to coax into phone sex. Maybe he should borrow some of Rush's Viagra.
A right-wing friend considers serial plagiarist Ann Coulter "sexy." He's also legally blind. Looking at the gaunt, skinny-legged Coulter reminds me of how the late Truman Capote once described pulp author Jacqueline Susann: "She looks like a truck driver in drag." Or a phrase from comedian George Carlin comes to mind: "I wouldn't (screw) her with a borrowed dick." Carlin was talking about the wife of former Vice President Dan Quayle and used a word stronger than "screw" but, hey, I'm feeling mellow this morning. And, unlike Coulter, I cite my sources.
(except in the case of Bush swearing about the constitution)
Back in my single, drinking days, I woke up the morning after next to a number of scary looking women. Had I turned over to find Ann Coulter on the next pillow I would have sworn off the bottle much earlier and probably sex as well. After that I would have needed a lot more than Viagra to get it up again.
Let's face it. Right wingers are, for the most part, boring, unimaginative and unattractive people. No wonder Rush needs little pills to get horny.
Carlin also once asked: "Have you ever noticed that women who are opposed to abortion are ones you wouldn't want to screw anyway?" Again, mellowness requires that I substitute a five-letter word for a four-letter one.
George W. Bush probably wishes some White House intern would crawl under his desk and give him a blowjob while he chatted on the phone with some head of state or planned the bombing of Iran but he probably can't find one who's willing. Maybe George doesn't believe in oral sex. Given his claims of Christian rebirth, he may only allow the "missionary" position.
Perhaps the right-wing is so hung up on sex because they're not getting any. Or maybe what they're getting isn't all that good. God knows they're trying to purge all pleasure from sex from our culture. The FBI has a whole unit, created by former attorney general and Bible-thumper John Ashcroft, dedicated to wiping whatever they consider to be pornography off the earth.
The Republican-controlled Congress increased fines four-fold on any television or radio station that broadcasts whatever they deem to be "indecent." This came, of course, after Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfunction" at the Super Bowl revealed a nipple-ring encrusted boob on national TV.
Which makes me wonder: C-Span broadcasts sessions of the House and Senate. Isn't that pornographic? Watching those boobs in action certainly makes me turn away in revulsion. And they don't even have nipple rings.
This is where you get conservative news? Are you out of your freakin' mind?
By the way, though I consider Lautenberg a self serving POS, which he verifies in his presser, he does finally get around to saying what the bill would accomplish;
• Provides the Attorney General with discretionary authority to deny the transfer of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm or explosives license or permit when a background check reveals that the purchaser is a known or suspected terrorist and the Attorney General reasonably believes that the person may use a firearm or explosives in connection with terrorism;
• Includes due process safeguards that afford an affected person an opportunity to challenge a denial by the Attorney General; and
• Protects the sensitive information upon which terrorist watch list listings are based.
http://lautenberg.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=273227
Like your lib hero @ capitol blue, you didn't tell the whole story when you decided to whip up hysteria with this thread. Weren't you even curious what the reason for this bill was?
Apparently there was a loophole in which known terrorists could legally buy guns in this country. I'm going to wait until I see the language in the bill before I believe either you, capitol blue, or Lautenberg.
Gee...imagine that... you mean good and honesty guys won't always be in office? </sarc>
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Well, the year was 2002, I think. Why would they use the same number twice? Maybe there where other S1237’s in the Google list; I never had that happen before.
His stance on illegal immigration and amnesty alone would do it. Illegal immigration is the greatest threat this country has faced in 20 years, bar none. I can see that. You can see that. We know what it means: the next election is our last chance to disentangle ourselves from the scourge.
It's no wonder FR was crawling with Giuliani supporters up until just recently.
“This is the same Justice Department that just staged a coup attempt on the President’s white house cabinet.
Think about that for a little bit.”
You lost me there, Gonsales in what way staged a coup.......?
Great thread, Carry_Okie. You blew it wide open, the whole discussion. From here on out it’s Constitution first, no compromises. Damn those who would betray it.
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