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Mark Steyn: DON'T GET EVEN, GET MAD
Steynonline.com ^ | 05/01/07 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/01/2007 6:07:49 AM PDT by Pokey78

from National Review

On the day the Royal Navy’s hostages were released, I chanced to be reading a poem from Reflections On Islam, a terrific collection of essays by George Jonas. The verse is by Nizar Qabbani, and it is his ode to the intifada:

O mad people of Gaza,
a thousand greetings to the mad
The age of political reason
has long departed
so teach us madness

Or as the larky motto you used to find on the wall of the typing pool put it: You don’t have to be crazy to work here but it helps. For the madness of the intifada and the jihad and Islamist imperialism is calculated, and highly effective. There is, as Jonas sees it, method in their madness.

Do you remember that little difficulty a few months back over the Pope’s indelicate quotation of Manuel II? Many Muslims were very upset about his speech (or his speech as reported on the BBC et al), so they protested outside Westminster Cathedral in London demanding “capital punishment” for the Pope, and they issued a fatwa in Pakistan calling on Muslims to kill His Holiness, and they firebombed a Greek Orthodox Church and an Anglican Church in Nablus, and they murdered a nun in Somalia and a couple of Christians in Iraq. As Tasnim Aslam of the Foreign Ministry in Islamabad helpfully clarified, “Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.” So don’t say we’re violent or we’ll kill you. As I wrote in National Review at the time, quod erat demonstrandum.

But that’s a debating society line. Islam isn’t interested in winning the debate, it’s interested in winning the real fight – the clash of civilizations, the war, society, culture, the whole magilla. That’s why it doesn’t care about the inherent contradictions of the argument: in the Middle East early in 2002, I lost count of the number of Muslims I met who believed simultaneously (a) that 9/11 was pulled off by the Mossad and (b) that it was a great victory for Islam. Likewise, it’s no stretch to feel affronted at the implication that you’re violently irrational and to threaten to murder anyone who says so. Western societies value logic because we value talk, and talks, and talking, on and on and on: that’s pretty much all we do, to the point where, faced with any challenge from Darfur to the Iranian nuclear program, our objective is to reduce the issue to just something else to talk about interminably. But, if you don’t prize debate and you merely want to win, getting hung up on logic is only going to get in your way. Take the most devastating rapier wit you know – Oscar Wilde, Noel Coward – and put him on a late-night subway train up against a psycho with a baseball bat. The withering putdown, the devastating aphorism will avail him nought.

The quality of your argument is only important if you want to win by persuasion. But it’s irrelevant if you want to win by intimidation. I’m personally very happy to defend my columns in robust debate, but after five years I’m a bit bored by having to respond to Muslim groups’ demands (in America) that I be fired and (in Canada) that I be brought before the totalitarian-lite kangaroo courts of the country’s ghastly “human rights commissions”. Publishers like hate-mail; they’re less keen on running up legal bills defending nuisance suits. So it’s easier just to avoid the subject – as an Australian novelist recently discovered when his book on a, ah, certain topical theme was mysteriously canceled.

That’s the advantage of madness as a strategy. If one party to the dispute forswears sanity, then the obligation is on the other to be sane for both of them. Thus, if a bunch of Iranian pirates kidnap some British seamen in Iraqi waters, it is the British whom the world calls on to show restraint and to defuse the situation. If an obscure Danish newspaper prints some offensive cartoons and in reaction Muslims murder people around the planet, well, that just shows we all need to be more sensitive about Islamophobia. But, if Muslims blow up dozens of commuters on the London Underground and in reaction a minor talk-show host ventures some tentative remarks about whether Islam really is a religion of piece, well, that also shows we all need to be more sensitive about Islamophobia. Do this long enough and eventually you’ll achieve the exquisite sensitivity of the European Union’s Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia. In 2003, their report on the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe found that “many anti-Semitic incidents were carried out by Muslim and pro-Palestinian groups”, and so (according to The Daily Telegraph) a “political decision” was taken not to publish it because of “fears that it would increase hostility towards Muslims”.

Got that? The EU’s principal “fear” about an actual ongoing epidemic of hate crimes against Jews is that it could hypothetically provoke an epidemic of hate crimes against Muslims.

And so the more the enemies of free society step on our feet the more we tiptoe around. After the release of the Royal Navy hostages, the Right Reverend Tom Burns, Roman Catholic Bishop of the Armed Forces, praised the Iranians for their “forgiveness”. “Over the past two weeks,” said the Bishop, “there has been a unity of purpose between Britain and Iran, whereby everyone has sought justice and forgiveness.”

Really? In what alternative universe is that? Maybe the insanity is contagious. As the columnist Jack Kelly wrote, “The infidels Allah wishes to destroy, he first makes mad.” And so these twin psychoses – Islamist rage and our determination never to see it – continue their valse macabre on the brink of catastrophe.


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To: Pokey78
Thanks Pokey78

Now only if America can come to the realization that we are dealing with colonists rather than immigrants we might have a chance.

I dont think so though.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

41 posted on 05/01/2007 8:10:38 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: RobbyS; Zionist Conspirator
What is most modern Biblical scholarship but a refusal to defend the rationality of Scripture?

Yet there are plenty of Catholics, sadly, who believe their ancestors were monkeys.

42 posted on 05/01/2007 8:16:29 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: FightThePower!

“The quality of your argument is only important if you want to win by persuasion. But it’s irrelevant if you want to win by intimidation.
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“That’s the advantage of madness as a strategy. If one party to the dispute forswears sanity, then the obligation is on the other to be sane for both of them. Thus, if a bunch of Iranian pirates kidnap some British seamen in Iraqi waters, it is the British whom the world calls on to show restraint and to defuse the situation.
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“And so the more the enemies of free society step on our feet the more we tiptoe around.
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So very true. This Steyn column states precisely the world’s problem now - and, I am getting very close to giving up on the hope that we can avoid sliding back into the Dark Ages.


43 posted on 05/01/2007 8:21:06 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: blitzgig

“Not necessarily. If the witty guy was actually ARMED, the combination of intelligence and weaponry could be powerful.”

Absolutely wrong, alas. In a combat situation, any tendency towards wit is a disadvantage in that it mayy well cause you to not concentrate on the killing of your enemy.

Once one is in reasonable threat of serious injury or death, the time for talk (witty or not) is past.


44 posted on 05/01/2007 8:23:22 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: wideawake

“Yet there are plenty of Catholics, sadly, who believe their ancestors were monkeys.”

And why shouldn’t they? After all, many of their elected officials are monkeys?


45 posted on 05/01/2007 8:25:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru
After all, many of their elected officials are monkeys?

A strong argument.

46 posted on 05/01/2007 8:27:16 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: GladesGuru

And why shouldn’t they? After all, many of their elected officials are monkeys?

Excellent point.


47 posted on 05/01/2007 8:50:47 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (Anything that offends 3 people must be banned. The 200 million just have to suck it up.)
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To: Pokey78
And so these twin psychoses – Islamist rage and our determination never to see it – continue their valse macabre on the brink of catastrophe.

Lovely writing, that.

48 posted on 05/01/2007 8:52:20 AM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: livius

What amazes me is that with the exception of Islam, many people use the Ten Commandments as a good moral compass. Islam goes against almost every commandment in dealing with infidels.


49 posted on 05/01/2007 8:53:32 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: gcruse

yep.

And the thread gets longer... absolutely proving Steyn’s point, that we talk, talk, talk. I would love to start working on the solutions.


50 posted on 05/01/2007 9:08:52 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: Rutabega

Me too. Mark Steyn needs to do more photo shoots—GQ would be a good idea.


51 posted on 05/01/2007 9:11:30 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Pokey78
Mark Steyn, Canada’s greatest export!
52 posted on 05/01/2007 9:30:41 AM PDT by RJL
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To: beaversmom

Giggle—GQ would work for me, too—then maybe we could compete with the Anne Coulter threads!


53 posted on 05/01/2007 9:46:51 AM PDT by Rutabega (European 'intellectualism' has NOTHING on America's kick-a$$ism!)
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To: Pokey78
And so these twin psychoses – Islamist rage and our determination never to see it – continue their valse macabre on the brink of catastrophe.

Don't get even, get mad !

How's this for madness: I predict that the 21st century will outdo the 20th century in bloodshed, and that the carnage will end only when we drop The Big One on Someone.

54 posted on 05/01/2007 10:02:42 AM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: beaversmom
Thanks dearie!

We ladies need our eye candy too-:)

55 posted on 05/01/2007 10:04:57 AM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: Pokey78
And so these twin psychoses – Islamist rage and our determination never to see it – continue their valse macabre on the brink of catastrophe.

Some of us would be overjoyed if someone would see it - if Mr. Steyn didn't seem so much like a lone voice, crying in the wilderness.

56 posted on 05/01/2007 10:05:44 AM PDT by irv
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To: xjcsa
I'd forgotten about that wacko idea, but everytime I read it I bust out laughing.

Having people think you're crazy can actually be quite effective; my sister was saved from a mugging in the Los Angeles bus terminal when she whipped out her Bible and began to hysterically rant and preach.

Her threatening attackers pulled back in horror and fled.

Why wouldn't this work as a foreign policy ?

Or we could Nuke the Moon.

Let's just Quit Talking Nicely.

57 posted on 05/01/2007 10:13:09 AM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: xjcsa

Thanks for the link!


58 posted on 05/01/2007 10:18:38 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Calling illegal aliens undocumented workers is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: Pokey78

Great Steyn, as usual... His bottom line is important for everyone: you’d can’t argue with (or negotiate with) a crazy person. This used to be exemplified by the Soviets: it was one of the reasons Kruschev took off his shoe and used it to pound the podium at the UN — to demonstrate how completely irrational and insane he and the Commie system is/was/and always will be. Now we have the Muslim extremists — complete crazy people. We can’t negotiate with these lunatics — just destroy them.


59 posted on 05/01/2007 10:24:22 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: Kerretarded
Islam goes against almost every commandment in dealing with infidels.

Very insightful

I have never heard it put that way before, but it's astoundingly true.

60 posted on 05/01/2007 10:24:24 AM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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