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Disarm America? Here's how [liberal wants Nazi type search of every household in the U.S.]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | April 29, 2007 | Dan Simpson

Posted on 04/29/2007 7:22:34 PM PDT by grundle

When people talk about doing something about guns in America, one of the points that comes to the fore is, "How could America disarm even if it wanted to? There are so many guns out there." Today I want to address the question of "how" -- if we decided to. Since I have little or no power to influence the "if" part of the issue, I will stick with "how."

Now, how would one disarm the American population? First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison per weapon to possess a firearm. The population would then be given three months to turn in their guns, without penalty.

The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling and empty building. Thoroughness would be at the level of the sort of search that is carried out in Crime Scene Investigations. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm.

Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across a city, county, state or the country at the same time, guns would move. But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. If there were, those carrying them would be subject to quick confiscation and prosecution. On the streets it would be a question of stopping and searching anyone, even Grandma with her walker.

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To: grundle

Obama Touts Gun-Control

Cho Seung-Hui, the presumed mentally ill gunman who shot 32 people at Virginia Tech inspired Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to urge that laws should be strengthened to prevent the mentally ill from buying guns. Federal laws already prohibit those confirmed to be mentally ill from purchasing guns. Obama says these laws don’t go far enough.

“Existing laws miss the point,” Obama said. “A desire to own a gun should, by itself, be considered prima facie evidence of mental illness. I mean, who would want a gun? In this modern age, gun ownership is an anachronism. The average home-owner isn’t hunting to put food on his family’s table. He doesn’t need to fight off savages who would rape his wife and murder or abduct his children. Why does he need a gun? It’s nuts.”

Under Obama’s proposal, a new federal Gun Registry Administration Bureau (GRAB) would be established. GRAB would be authorized to review all state laws pertaining to gun ownership and void those deemed unsuitably “loose.” “Under our Constitution, regulation of firearms is a federal responsibility,” Obama claimed. “States must not be permitted to usurp this authority through lax enforcement.”

Obama insisted that “those truly in need of owning a weapon will still have access. All they have to do is demonstrate to the satisfaction of federal agents that they have a legitimate need for it.” Obama did admit, though, that demonstrating such a need would be difficult since the mere expression of a need for a firearm would normally be considered disqualifying.

In related news, California Assemblyman Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) introduced a bill (AB 362) that would put restrictions on ammunition. De Leon applauded himself for “finding a loophole in the Second Amendment.” “The Bill of Rights says people have the right to bear arms,” de Leon pointed out. “It doesn’t say anything about bullets.”

De Leon congratulated himself on coming up with “a bullet-proof solution to mass murders like the ones we saw at Virginia Tech. Without bullets, Cho would’ve been stopped before he started.”

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http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


81 posted on 04/29/2007 10:30:21 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: grundle

Ver are your papers?
Ver you born in Amerika?
Give us all your veapons, now Schnel.
To ze concentration camp mit you. Ve know how to treat people like you.


82 posted on 04/29/2007 10:35:25 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: grundle
Only a Progressive Marxists Leftist would want to do something like that.
Your right that is exactly what Hitler and his gangs did in the thirties.
Hmmmm, Didn’t the Democrats adopt the same laws as the Nazi’s in 1964 regarding guns?
83 posted on 04/29/2007 10:38:13 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: ASA Vet
Actually all that would happen is RW II would be pushed forward.

And the tree of Liberty would be well refreshed. I hope it never comes to that, but fear it will, and probably sooner rather than later.

84 posted on 04/29/2007 10:38:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jim-x
The gunbanners won’t have to search everything either. There are plenty of people out there who will turn you in.

good point. It something like this happened it would rip our Republic apart. It would be very messy. Without an armed citizenry, the left in America would not hesitant to impose a bloody dictatorship upon us. Stalin is a hero to the left in America.

85 posted on 04/29/2007 10:42:56 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: Mariebl

I’m not depressed at all...I am very happy that I have my Smith & Wesson. The unhappy person will be anybody who tries to invade my property.


86 posted on 04/29/2007 10:42:58 PM PDT by clooney4824
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To: John Semmens
He doesn’t need to fight off savages who would rape his wife and murder or abduct his children.

Proof that Obama was not raised in the Hood. Nor the Barrios or any middle class area close to those places.

87 posted on 04/29/2007 10:47:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Centurion2000
Can you see them trying this in South Central LA or Texas for God's sakes?

They'll start small, against "obvious nutcases" such as the Alabama Free Militia. Oh wait, they already have. They've confiscated firearms in NOLA as well, even refusing to return them in the face of a court order to do so. Yet I don't see the Mayor or Police Chief of the Chocolate City being thrown into jail for violating the rights of the citizens under both the federal and Louisiana Constitutions.

88 posted on 04/29/2007 10:51:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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It wouldnt be a secret for long and after the first 50 or so ‘special’ trained cops got their faces blown off (shotgun blast...) kicking in front doors the ‘special police’ would no longer be willing to carry out these ‘liberals’ hitlerine wishes.

I wouldnt doubt that soon those ‘liberals’ who perpetrated the action would themselves be swinging from lampposts.
Carrying that out wouldnt be done in secret or in the middle of the night or by anyone who has to be ‘specially trained’ AND likely would be assisted by the majority of policemen.

I suggest that the other ‘liberals’ slit that tards throat
for opening his stupid mouth and making such a stupid suggestion and moving all of them that much closer to their place up on those lampposts.

89 posted on 04/29/2007 10:54:31 PM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: raftguide
Looks like the Elian Gonzales kidnapping on the cover.

The book and cover predate that incident. UC was published in January 1996. Elian was grabbed by Jackboot Janet's minions on April 22, 2000.

Uniform is different, helmet is different, different firearm. Not so much like the Elian raid really.

90 posted on 04/29/2007 10:59:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: epow
The Congress that passed such a law and the president who signed and enforced it would be thrown out at the next election, and the politicians know it.

What next election?

91 posted on 04/29/2007 11:00:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Northern Yankee

“The civil war for this country would start at that point!”

It would hardly be a ‘civil war’, more like a long delayed cleansing of the leftist rot done with little more difficulty than your local exterminator eradicating a house’s termite infestation.

Sure you might have to rip some walls down, but they are easily rebuilt and it costs you less in the long term.


92 posted on 04/29/2007 11:00:45 PM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: epow
That's primarily due to the unprecedented increase in the market price of metals such as copper, zinc, and tin and the alloys that are made from them. I don't believe this has anything to do with the government making ammo more expensive or reducing the number of privately owned guns.

Not to mention that there are several significant wars going on. Much Military surplus is being shot up before it becomes surplus, mostly in training, but quite a bit in action as well. Less supply, higher demand, means higher prices.

93 posted on 04/29/2007 11:02:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: John Semmens
“The Bill of Rights says people have the right to bear arms,” de Leon pointed out. “It doesn’t say anything about bullets.”

Cartridges as well as bullets, powder and primers, are arms, within the meaning of the term in the Constitution. Sorry about that Snr. de Leon.

94 posted on 04/29/2007 11:05:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Doc91678
Didn’t the Democrats adopt the same laws as the Nazi’s in 1964 regarding guns?

'68. Only some of the same laws. Including the infamous "sporting purposes" test that pretty much ignores the original intent of the second amendment.

95 posted on 04/29/2007 11:07:58 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: John Semmens
[Barak Obama]: A desire to own a gun should, by itself, be considered prima facie evidence of mental illness.

I hope the GOP is taking notes now. I know the GOA and JPFO need to have this information forwarded to them.

96 posted on 04/29/2007 11:12:22 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: grundle

Bring it on Simpson.....we triple dog dare you!


97 posted on 04/29/2007 11:16:55 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: IncPen

ping


98 posted on 04/29/2007 11:20:57 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: JillValentine

Great book


99 posted on 04/29/2007 11:57:18 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Bommer

He is not far off mark

see

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1824560/posts


100 posted on 04/30/2007 12:11:53 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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