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Toddler dies after pit bull attack
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Posted on 04/27/2007 10:12:52 AM PDT by Omega Man II

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To: Badeye

I agree with you badeye. It’s not about the breed - it’s about humans understanding and RESPECTING the breed. I don’t care how nice a pit bull is, a child should never be left unsupervised by a knowledgable adult in the presence of that pit pull. Heck, that goes for ANY breed of dog.

It seems in this instance, the dog was kept in a room and escaped that room, then attacking and killing the baby. The parents/owners of that dog obviously observed poor judgement in keeping that dog after previous attacks on animals (most likely why they had him locked up in the laundry room.) Unfortunatey, they’ve paid a heavy cost for their bad judement.


61 posted on 04/27/2007 11:28:31 AM PDT by California74
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To: Killborn

“I see they are already attacking you for “appeasing” the “killer hounds from Hades!!!1!1!11!1!!eleventy!1” Thank you for injecting much needed logic.

It never fails to surprise me how all around intelligent people can fall victim to such cheap emotional baloney.”

You are welcome

www.roadhomerescue.org

My wife and I are both heavily involved in projects like the one you find at roadhomerescue.org


62 posted on 04/27/2007 11:28:33 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: California74

“Unfortunatey, they’ve paid a heavy cost for their bad judement.”

The one common denominator in 99% of all dog attacks.

let me put it another way for our friends on this thread.

“Its the Humans, Stupid!”

There is no such thing as a vicious breed. Only stupid human owners.


63 posted on 04/27/2007 11:30:30 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: wideawake

“Of course, the ACLU would have a field day with that one, so the only practical thing to do is dispose of the breed [and the ACLU].”


64 posted on 04/27/2007 11:31:47 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: Omega Man II; All
Let's just put it this way: If you want to own any dog/s or other animals who have the ability to kill or maim, be willing to accept the consequences.

It's one of the main tenets of Conservatism: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

65 posted on 04/27/2007 11:35:45 AM PDT by wolfcreek (DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
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To: Badeye

Nonsense.

How many times have you seen this kind of headline:

“Poodle mauls neighbor in fatal attack”...


66 posted on 04/27/2007 11:36:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet & FredFan)
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To: John Philoponus

Your welcome. Good point regarding the ganagbangers, ghettoism, adn drugs. It seems to be no coincident that the rise in pit violence coincides with the explosion of gangsta/thug lifestyle. Even if a-c isn’t the case, it’s virtually a guarantee that some idiot who had no business raising dogs, let alone children, would get a pit just to be “cool”.

Yet another toilet stain from the “culture” of Rap (silent c)


67 posted on 04/27/2007 11:38:08 AM PDT by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: SE Mom

Ask your vet. If you have been indoctrinated as many have to believe pit bulls ‘exist to kill our kids’ I don’t expect you to believe a relatively anonymous screen name in a political chat forum.

Just ask your vet if there is such a thing as a vicious breed.

btw, poodles have a high percentage of ‘biting incidents’.

I’m not making this stuff up, and I don’t own a pit bull.


68 posted on 04/27/2007 11:39:54 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: Badeye

Good luck in your endeavors. Lord knows that these poor pups deserve a good home.


69 posted on 04/27/2007 11:40:07 AM PDT by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Or they will trot out the numbers showing how many more people are bitten by poodles, beagles, cocker spaniels etc.

Yes, but isn’t it interesting that those breeds aren’t killing or maiming toddlers and old ladies?

ENOUGH!


70 posted on 04/27/2007 11:43:07 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Badeye
Pit bulls are misused daily, and we blame the dog?

No, it's not the dog's fault. But the dog is unique in that it's so capable of killing if it gets that in its head.

At the very least, the breed should be regulated the same way other potentially dangerous animals are (like big cats, for example).

Almost every pit bull I've ever seen was owned by white trash. Most of those owners are too stupid to be allowed to control such a dangerous animal.

71 posted on 04/27/2007 11:43:44 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: John Philoponus

I really believe this is most of the problem.

We had a neighbor down the street that had a Pit. He used to fill a wagon with concrete blocks, put a pinch collar on the dog, then make it drag the wagon around. If it tried to stop, he would pull the leash on the pinch collar.

One day, I was outside with another neighbor at the park, with all our kids, talking. She has a Boxer, and my husband and I had our Boxers out as well. Our dogs were all on leashes. This pit got out of their yard and came tearing at our dogs. I am not normally afraid of dogs, as I grew up with three Dobies. This dog scared the crap out of me. My husband distracted it while my neighbor and I got all the kids and dogs in my house. We had to call PMO, and when they got there, even they were afraid to touch the dog. They had one hand on their guns the whole time they tried to round the dog up (the owner wasn’t home). This dog went right for my husband’s arm. Luckily, no one was seriously hurt.

This particular guy ended up getting kicked out of housing (and eventually the USMC) for beating his wife up about 2 months later. There does seem to be a certain “element” attracted to the breed. Bad breeding has a lot to do with all the problems they have also.

I don’t believe every Pit is bad. I foster dogs for rescues a lot, and we have come across some really great Pits (most have been AmStaff mixes, it appears). But sometimes I do think the breed as a whole has been destroyed by backyard breeding.


72 posted on 04/27/2007 11:44:32 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: Omega Man II

Ever notice they never give the dog’s name in cases like this?


73 posted on 04/27/2007 11:45:17 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Uncledave

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

Pit bulls and rottweilers account for over half of the deaths caused by dogs. But nowhere near half of the attacks.


74 posted on 04/27/2007 11:46:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Killborn

We do what we can. We’ve always had dogs, but we’ve decided recently we will take older dogs now that have been ‘rescued’ rather than raising pups.

They can’t help themselves. And lord knows they deserve a helping hand just for being a gift of nature to us humans.

Just my point of view.


75 posted on 04/27/2007 11:46:57 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: BearCub

“Almost every pit bull I’ve ever seen was owned by white trash. Most of those owners are too stupid to be allowed to control such a dangerous animal.”

Odd, I can say the same about people that buy .44 magnum handguns, ala Dirty Harry.

your view of those that own pit bulls seems to be at the heart of your viewpoint. Again, the anti gun nuts come to mind, who don’t like the people that own guns.

Pit bulls are not inherently ‘dangerous’. I’ll suggest more people have died over the past couple of decades from being thrown from a horse, but thats just a guess off the top of my head.

Just ask your vet. Thats all I ask.


76 posted on 04/27/2007 11:49:55 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: from occupied ga

“Pit bulls and rottweilers account for over half of the deaths caused by dogs. But nowhere near half of the attacks.”

Yep. I own a Rott/Shepard mix myself. She’s a great dog, friendly to everybody that comes to our house.

But put a hand on anyone in our family, and it takes about half a second before she’s between you and the family member, one Very Loud bark and a look on her face that says ‘You’re obviously insane, and I’m going to hurt you if you don’t let my pack member go...”

She’s never once bit anyone - outside of the accidental ‘nip’ when she and I are playing.

Its not the dog, its the owners, folks.

Some will tell you they got a pit bull or Rott or GShepard for ‘protection’. And for some weird reason they get it into their pea brains they have to make the dog ‘mean’ to protect. Nothing could be further from the truth. These dogs are Pack Animals, and you are the leader of the Pack.

You get accosted, they’ll respond EXACTLY as they would in the wild. They’ll attack the aggressor. You don’t have to ‘teach them’ to do this, and thats probably the single biggest mistake a inexperienced dog owner makes with the larger breeds in particular.


77 posted on 04/27/2007 11:54:52 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: RC2

Exactly. Jaws of STEEL. Some counties are slowly outlawing them.


78 posted on 04/27/2007 11:55:40 AM PDT by Fawn (Achmed the Dead Terrorist--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=2QXQFTEBqNE)
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To: Badeye
I’ll suggest more people have died over the past couple of decades from being thrown from a horse

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And how many were toddlers, eight year olds, old folks, passersby? I'll suggest that every one of those folks climbed up on that horse of his own volition (not that I agree with your 'guess').

"Just ask a vet"

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Ask him what? how about this....'What dog can I buy that has the greatest liklihood of killing my little girl?' What would his answer be?

79 posted on 04/27/2007 11:57:10 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

You seem desperate to continue believing a myth about pit bulls.

Ask your vet if there is such a thing as a ‘vicious breed of dog’ and they’ll tell you the answer is ‘no’.

Misuse of a dog is no different than misuse of a gun, or a automobile, or anything else thats potentially dangerous/deadly.

Thats why I keep posting ‘ask your vet’. This is a MSM driven myth, that some politicians on the local level have picked up as a great political gambit, especially in the large urban centers.


80 posted on 04/27/2007 12:00:07 PM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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