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Giuliani's Startling Departure on Civil Unions [Giuliani weaseling]
The New York Sun ^
| April 27, 2007
| RYAN SAGER
Posted on 04/27/2007 3:10:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: dirtboy; veronica
Thanks for posting that dirtboy. What a difference a few words make. It just goes to show you that veronica has an agenda—and that agenda doesn’t belong here!
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:36:25 AM PDT
by
dmw
(Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
To: dirtboy
I don’t think Fred and Rudy are that far apart on the issue of gays. Both against gay marriage.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:37:00 AM PDT
by
veronica
To: kevkrom
Doesn’t someome from Newsmax post here?
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:38:19 AM PDT
by
veronica
To: veronica
To: veronica
I dont think Fred and Rudy are that far apart on the issue of gays. Both against gay marriage.Oh, horsecrap. That's just as dishonest as the earlier Rudy booster claim that Duncan Hunter and Rudy had the same position on a PBA ban despite the fact that Rudy supported Clinton's veto of a PBA ban.
Rudy pushed for gay hate crimes laws and used to favor gay civil unions.
Fred opposes special treatment for gays and opposes gay civil unions. NO COMPARISON.
Admit it. Your guy is a social liberal. It would be better if you just admitted what is blindingly obvious so you don't feel compelled to drag down actual social conservatives to somehow try and make your guy look better.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:39:56 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
To: Jim Robinson
I got it. You think I’m a liar.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:40:45 AM PDT
by
veronica
To: veronica
I am pointing out that Rudy's positions on certain issues...Which positions?
The ones from 10 years ago, 10 months ago or 10 days ago?
He keeps repositioning his positions.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:40:56 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
To: veronica
Marriage should be between a man and a woman. It should remain that way."I'm glad to hear it. I'm still not voting for that nitwit.
To: Jim Robinson
He is flipping and flopping in a way that would do Lurch proud.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:41:36 AM PDT
by
Hydroshock
(Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
To: Jim Robinson
He is flipping and flopping in a way that would do Lurch proud.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:41:47 AM PDT
by
Hydroshock
(Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
To: veronica
I just don't see how any conservative can support this man. Sure he cleaned up NYC, but in doing so he showed a predisposition for certain heavy-handed tactics that only somebody with very little respect for the Constitution would endorse, and I don't want him getting a chance to do this on a grander scale. He reminds me of another politician whose biggest claim to fame is that he made the trains run on time. Sorry, but anybody who sneers at the Constitution the way Rudy does is unfit to become president.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:42:27 AM PDT
by
yuta250
To: veronica
Fred Thompson says gay rights should be left up to the states. That's called a punt. :)Fred's a federalist. He was the only Senator to vote against uniform national blood alcohol levels for DUI. He thinks just about everything is up to the states. Which is refreshing considered how everyone else seems to be about centralized power.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:42:28 AM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(A proud member of the Frederalist society.)
To: veronica
To: Jim Robinson
*sings* They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning!
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:43:47 AM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Our Forefathers roared for Liberty, their children now whine for security and safety.)
To: veronica
Fred Thompson says gay rights should be left up to the states. That's called a punt. :)No, that's called federalism. Something Rudy wouldn't recognize - the notion that power is supposed to have constraints.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:43:54 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
To: Jim Robinson
I came to FR several years ago and enjoyed the dialog and discussion. It was civil and enlightening. It was refuge. Even when fellow FReepers didn’t agree, there was room for all opinions.
Unfortunately, those days seems to be gone. All I see now is a “Stop Rudy” campaign here no matter the cost. Heh, I’m as conservative as they come. And, I will not vote for Rudy in the primary. Yet, I’m also a pragmatist. And, I was directly affected by the events of 9/11 as many of my colleagues were murdered on that day. The war against Islamofascism is the ONLY priority in my decision making process at the moment regarding the upcoming elections. If it meant prosecuting the global war - in reality, the Third World War - to victory, I will vote for whoever the Republican nominee for President may be.
So, let’s not stoop to the level of the far-left and trash each other with such vitriol. Please.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:44:03 AM PDT
by
Skywarner
(The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
To: veronica
As far as "dressing the part" - he wore a costume to an event.I'm confused here. I've seen him in a couple different outfits.
Was it a one time thing, or has he dressed in drag multiple times?
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:44:25 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Rooty sucks up to gays. Circa 1998 Staten Island Advance news clip.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:44:27 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
To: veronica
Doesnt someome from Newsmax post here? Carl Limbacher used to post here under the handle Carl/NewsMax -- the account is active, but no posts since last August.
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:44:43 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
To: AmericanInTokyo
“Sheesh. This guy in the White House disturbs me.”
We had him in the whitehouse once already....
For 8 straight years
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posted on
04/27/2007 5:44:55 AM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Our Forefathers roared for Liberty, their children now whine for security and safety.)
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