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Rudy Giuliani: I Can Support Both Abortion and Partial-Birth Abortion Ban
LifeNews ^ | 04/26/2007 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/26/2007 10:06:32 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Concord, NH (LifeNews.com) -- Rudy Giuliani defended his position on abortion and partial-birth abortion during a campaign stop in New Hampshire on Tuesday. The former New York City mayor told voters that he's not being inconsistent when he says he supports abortion but also backs the Supreme Court ruling on the partial-birth abortion ban. Giuliani insisted that his recent support for the partial-birth abortion ban and the high court's ruling upholding it was consistent with his past opposition to the ban.

"I think you can be personally opposed to it, hate abortion, respect somebody else's conscience who might make a different decision, and also believe that particular form of abortion is wrong," he said.

He said he shifted his position on the ban when lawmakers adopted "more scientific language" in the life of the mother provision in the bill in 2003.

Giuliani explained that he opposed the partial-birth abortion ban in the 1990s and supported President Clinton's two vetoes of it because he didn't think the life of the mother exception was strong enough.

However, the premise behind Clinton's vetoes was his contention that the ban needed a health exception despite medical groups saying that the three-day-long abortion procedure is never medically necessary.

Giuliani previously told CNN's Inside Politics in a 1999 interview, that he does not support even a modest ban on the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure saying, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Yet, in a Fox News interview in February, Giuliani said that he supports a ban on partial-birth abortion as long as there is a provision to protect the life of the mother.

"If it has provision for the life of the mother, then I would support it," he told the Fox News program.

But his pro-abortion views overall are turning him off with GOP voters and the more the abortion issue comes up the more his poll numbers are beginning to fall.

Republican voters have previously turned away pro-abortion candidates from capturing the primary nod, including former California Gov. Pete Wilson and Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter. Republicans haven't had a pro-abortion nominee since Gerald Ford in 1976.

Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are the top two candidates in the polls apart from Giuliani.

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee are also running and drawing significant support from the pro-life community.

Other potential Republican candidates include pro-life former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, pro-life Reps. Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, and former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson. Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson are also in the mix.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionismurder; giuliani; infanticide; prodeath; rudy; stoprudy2008
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Reminds me of a line in a country and western song:

“Say the words I want to hear.”


21 posted on 04/26/2007 10:48:34 AM PDT by Mickeys Big Hand
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“And then pay for the murder of your grandchild with your American Express.”


22 posted on 04/26/2007 10:49:49 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

"I can, but I don't!"


23 posted on 04/26/2007 10:50:48 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
"I think you can be personally opposed to it, hate abortion homicide, respect somebody else's conscience who might make a different decision, and also believe that a particular form of abortion homicide is wrong."

"I think you can be personally opposed to it, hate abortion terrorism, respect somebody else's conscience who might make a different decision, and also believe that a particular form of abortion terrorism is wrong."

"I think you can be personally opposed to it, hate abortion child abuse, respect somebody else's conscience who might make a different decision, and also believe that a particular form of abortion child abuse is wrong."

Dang. No matter how I tweak it, the structure of the argument always produces a moral ZERO.

24 posted on 04/26/2007 10:57:25 AM PDT by HKMk23 (We are good, not because we are not tempted, but because we are tempted yet choose to be good.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Congratulations, Rudy!

You’ve won the “Most Duplicitous Scumbag of the Week” award.

Be proud!


25 posted on 04/26/2007 11:00:04 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback
Oh-lord-here-he-goes-again PING.
26 posted on 04/26/2007 11:09:41 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("On 11/07/06, 'true' conservatives and 'rat traitors joined forces to bring Sharia law to America.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

27 posted on 04/26/2007 11:17:32 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("On 11/07/06, 'true' conservatives and 'rat traitors joined forces to bring Sharia law to America.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Not only does Giuliani enjoy wearing high heels, but he also has a flip-flop fetish.


28 posted on 04/26/2007 11:33:21 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: HKMk23
“...the structure of the argument always produces a moral ZERO.”

For Giuliani, it is perfectly acceptable for a doctor to insert a surgical device into the mothers body, grab hold of an infants feet, pull the baby out of the canal(except for the head), thrust a blunt rod into the base of his skull, and extract the baby's brain, although he can be personally opposed to this procedure.

Moral ZERO is right, my friend.

29 posted on 04/26/2007 11:43:11 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

What a drag ----queen!

30 posted on 04/26/2007 11:54:07 AM PDT by heywaitadarnminute (This post happens between 12 AM and 12 PM)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

>> Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are the top two candidates in the polls apart from Giuliani. <<

When I read that, I said to myself, “OK, they mustn’t be counting Fred Thompson,” but then they list him at the end. Fred has beaten Romney in every poll I’ve ever seen him listed in. MY guess is LifeSite isn’t buying that Thompson is pro-life, in spite of his perfect pro-life voting record. It’s funny, then, that they accept Romney’s claims.


31 posted on 04/26/2007 12:06:26 PM PDT by dangus
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To: spikeytx86

You KNOW where Osama is????

(What, you work for CNN?)


32 posted on 04/26/2007 12:07:47 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

They said “top two CANDIDATES.”

Fred hasn’t announced yet.


33 posted on 04/26/2007 12:16:17 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I guess Giuliani couldn’t stand the prosperity of making a good speech and actually being praised by conservatives so he decided to stick his head up his butt again.


34 posted on 04/26/2007 12:22:23 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: dangus
LOL, If I knew where osama was, his head would be mounted on my wall by now.
35 posted on 04/26/2007 12:27:47 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Then he isn't personally against abortion.

He's politically positioning himself.

36 posted on 04/26/2007 12:30:28 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

37 posted on 04/26/2007 12:30:45 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: NeoCaveman; spikeytx86
if the Supreme Court will let you kill Keith Olberman then I support your right to chose to do so.

Yes, but do you support the use of taxpayer funding for Olberman-slaying?

38 posted on 04/26/2007 12:34:55 PM PDT by kevkrom
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To: cpforlife.org

39 posted on 04/26/2007 12:36:33 PM PDT by cgk
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To: cpforlife.org

Giuliani was for it before he was against it, before he was against it, he was for it. Got it?

Giuliani’s claim to fame is he made a speech after the collapse of the WTC. Whoooooopee.

There is no worse candidate for America.


40 posted on 04/26/2007 12:42:08 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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