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A boy dies, and a gun debate is reignited
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | April 24, 2007 | Damian G. Guevara and Patrick O'Donnell

Posted on 04/24/2007 6:32:15 AM PDT by Fudd

Damon Wells is the man gun supporters were imagining when they fought for the right to carry concealed weapons.

He had a permit to carry his gun, and he had the gun on him when a pair of teenage thieves approached him Saturday night on his front porch in Cleveland.

When one of the youths pulled a gun, Wells drew his and shot one of the boys several times in the chest, police said. Arthur Buford, 15, died after stumbling away and collapsing on a sidewalk near East 134th Street and Kinsman Road.

City prosecutors decided Monday that Wells, 25, was justified and would not be charged for what appears to be the first time a concealed-carry permit holder has shot and killed an attacker.

Nonetheless, the shooting reignited the debate that flared three years ago when Ohio's concealed-carry law took effect.

Gun supporters said the weapon saved Wells' life. Opponents said it took Buford's - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

An angry throng of about 30 youths gathered Monday and set up a memorial at the intersection where Buford, a freshman at John F. Kennedy High School, died.

His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter.

"They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

Buford's accomplice disappeared after the shooting and had not been caught as of Monday night. Police found a .38-caliber handgun in the mail chute of a nearby house. They believe it belonged to Buford or the other suspect, Lt. Thomas Stacho said.

Police took a .40-caliber Smith and Wesson firearm from Wells as evidence, the police report shows.

Both sides of the gun debate said it was sad that a teenager died.

"It's tragic," said Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association. "Anytime somebody dies, it's tragic, but it's hard to have any sympathy when he chose to have a gun and go threaten somebody's life." Irvine said it was "great that a potential victim is able to continue his life instead of having a criminal take it."

Toby Hoover, of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, said she had not heard of any other fatal shooting involving a concealed-carry permit holder.

"This is one of the few where they actually used it to stop a crime," Hoover said.

But, she said, "there's still a dead kid here."

A man who answered a phone number for Wells refused to comment and hung up. No one answered the door at Wells' home.

Plain Dealer reporters Jesse Tinsley and Brie Zeltner and researcher Cheryl Diamond contributed to this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; concealedcarry
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1 posted on 04/24/2007 6:32:17 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: Fudd
His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter. "They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

Some people are just retards.

2 posted on 04/24/2007 6:34:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Fudd
"They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

Your cousin pulled a gun on the wrong guy. It's a new game now, with new rules...the rules that should have been in force all along.

Somebody always volunteers to be the example.

3 posted on 04/24/2007 6:35:37 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Fudd
Gun supporters said the weapon saved Wells' life. Opponents said it took Buford's - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

Two people committing a robbery, and they pull out a gun ... chances were pretty good that someone was going to get shot. And everybody's crying because the robber is the one who got shot. Crazy world.

4 posted on 04/24/2007 6:35:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Fudd

“there’s still a dead kid here.”————————Or....A future wannabe thug/killer is dead and will not cause suffering in the future?


5 posted on 04/24/2007 6:35:50 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Fudd

What’s to DISCUSS?

Clear case of justifiable self-defense!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


6 posted on 04/24/2007 6:36:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Fudd

BTW, this is a reason to have multiple guns. When you own “a” gun, and then use it, it gets taken for evidence. Then you have nothing to use against those seeking to retaliate.


7 posted on 04/24/2007 6:36:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Fudd

That should of read that there is still a Dead Kid here with a .40 Smith and Wesson in his hands. What if the Dead Kid had decided to shoot a roomful of unsuspecting students in a classroom... It happens.


8 posted on 04/24/2007 6:36:27 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Fudd
...Opponents said it took Buford's - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

So it's better that the gun toting 15 year old thug be alive, and the innocent civilian be dead?
9 posted on 04/24/2007 6:36:29 AM PDT by rottndog (Fred Thompson will mop the floor with all the other Republican nominees.)
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To: Fudd

“Gun supporters said the weapon saved Wells’ life. Opponents said it took Buford’s - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.”

How can a reporter in all honesty write a sentence like that.... well I guess my mistake is presupposing he would be writing “in all honesty”


10 posted on 04/24/2007 6:36:52 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Fudd

A turd pulls a gun on a citizen...the citizen pulls his own and ends the perps criminal career and they have a problem with this???

Idiots!


11 posted on 04/24/2007 6:37:45 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Fudd

He shot Boo.

}:-)4


12 posted on 04/24/2007 6:40:50 AM PDT by Moose4 (Yoiks, and away!)
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To: Fudd; Froufrou

If you rob the wrong fellow, you could get shot ping.


13 posted on 04/24/2007 6:41:30 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: rottndog
"So it's better that the gun toting 15 year old thug be alive, and the innocent civilian be dead?"

Some people would certainly be happier if that were the case.

jw

14 posted on 04/24/2007 6:41:49 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Vaquero

PING


15 posted on 04/24/2007 6:42:05 AM PDT by AmericanGunner
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To: Fudd
A man carrying a firearm used it to defend himself... The [constitutional] system worked... End of story.
16 posted on 04/24/2007 6:42:36 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: Fudd
the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

Would the world be a better place if he was?
17 posted on 04/24/2007 6:42:36 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Oberon
And everybody's crying because the robber is the one who got shot. Crazy world.

"Justice for Just Us," says the spokesman for the miscreant.

This whine from the left (just like the "shock and outrage" over the USSC decision on part-birth aborts..) is what responsible society sounds like. Hopefully, we'll hear more of it.

18 posted on 04/24/2007 6:43:02 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Fudd
Good shooting!

I have a beer later toasting the close combat skills of Mr. Wells.

But I hope the police give him his pistol back soon. He'll probably need it to protect himself from some of the "angry youths" who were memorializing the violent predator.

19 posted on 04/24/2007 6:43:32 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Vaquero
Idiots!

Welcome to Cleveland! Where Dennis Kucinich wins reelection by 30+ percentage points!
20 posted on 04/24/2007 6:45:14 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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