Exatrapolate technical warfare development about 20 years out ..... it's probably in prototype stage at some point.
I would be suprised at all to see a few of these
Posted on 04/22/2007 10:13:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Japan wants the fighters US refused to sell Canberra
Peter Alford
Tokyo correspondent
April 23, 2007
THE Japanese Government wants Washington to overturn an export ban on the F-22A Raptor so the most advanced stealth fighter aircraft in service can be considered for Tokyo's next-generation military aircraft procurement. The US refused to consider selling the F-22 to Australia, its other closest Pacific ally, but Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is expected to raise the matter when he meets George W.Bush in the White House on Friday.
Japan's Defence Minister, Fumio Kyuma, will ask his opposite number, Robert Gates, for access to F-22 performance data, transfer of which is also forbidden by US law, when they meet next weekend.
(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...
Let all our gear just stay, "black box".
They want fighter? Fine --let them break out their yen, and we'll FLY IN the FINAL PRODUCT to train them on.
We have strategic interests in Asia, FINE --but the US should NOT play tutor to the Japanese defense industrial technology base.
Let Japan BUY the stuff outright IF they're actually concernd about Japanese military interests (and not building whole new industries).
I agree with you totally —no F-22 sale to Israel. Ever. I remember the whole Lavi/F10 thing, where US taxpayers built the F-16, which was tweaked by Israel, and then handed off (with the AA missiles) to CHINA, for a price.
Nothing Israel would like better than a pair of F22s so they could tweak the AA missles they sell to China.
No, the Japanese have a history of leaks as well - remember how Toshiba sold them the machine tools and plans to make quieter sub propellers?
Er, remember how Toshiba sold the Russians, that is.
They dinged their credit with me in the 1970's when they went to U.S. Jews to steal the Bomb, and then they smashed it up in the Pollard case 20 years ago -- hell, they weren't even using Pollard to steal our secrets for themselves, they were stealing them to sell the Russians, our deadliest enemies! For exit visas!
Then it was Weinmann and AIPAC.
No, I wouldn't trust the Izzies with sensitive intel as far as I could throw them. Everything we share with them now should be sanitized down to "SECRET" and scrubbed of any references to national means.
And we damn sure shouldn't be sharing first-line defense equipment and manufacturing methodologies with them. Not after they tried to develop and sell an AWACS system to the damned Chinese.
Good fences make good neighbors -- especially when the neighbors have relatives in your own house.
It is a hopeful sign that Japan is concerned about her neighbors. I hope we are as well (ie; China).
And it goes eightfold for the Chinese, Chinese firms, firms with Chinese stakeholders and employees, Chinese nationals, and U.S. citizens of Chinese extraction, who are the first people Chinese intelligence agents go to -- and usually with great success.
If we wouldn't sell the F-22 to the Aussies, who are brick-solid and standup-tall, I can't see selling it to any of the other Pacific powers. The Japanese are a possibility -- they are uniquely trusted, to the point that there is a joke about the "Eighth Fleet". But the names "Nagumo" and "Yamamoto" keep rising up in memory, whenever I see a photo of a Japanese warship flying the Rising Sun from her yardarm.
Right. It doesn’t take a particular affiliation to sell out.
Yup, nothing quite like building up the justification for uncle Bernie to develop new weapon systems.
That is not inconsistent with the article
“But the names “Nagumo” and “Yamamoto” keep rising up in memory,...”
And Hitler and Mussolini and Stalin and the Kaiser and King George. Let the dead past bury its dead.
Besides, anyone under forty knows no history prior to the Beatles, anyway.
As much as I admire Japan as an ally, we must not export the absolute pinnacle of air superiority. let them buy the F35 instead.
Exatrapolate technical warfare development about 20 years out ..... it's probably in prototype stage at some point.
I would be suprised at all to see a few of these
I don’t understand this issue at all... We should allow the F22 to go where it does us the most good, our closest allies who are on the front lines.
if you don’t want the PRC/PLA getting it...don’t “sell” it to Taiwan.
Agreed. We have no better allies in the Asian Pacific rim than Australia and Japan. We should sell them what they want, because we can trust them far more than we can our own Democrat leadership.
Yes, if the Japanese reveal a secret... I eat them.
And then stomp on the newspaper building that published it.
RAAAAARGH!
:-P
Wow!, your perspective is so rare on this board that I'm always pleasantly surprised when I see it.
“But the names “Nagumo” and “Yamamoto” keep rising up in memory,...”
But this one is so common, that I wonder if there is a hidden desire to maintain old power structures.
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