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We can't afford to be a nation of soft targets [VA Tech and Islamic Homiciders]
Newsday ^ | April 19, 2007 | James P. Pinkerton

Posted on 04/19/2007 8:01:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Our civilization is under attack from a new kind of weapon: the suicide killer. Sometimes these killers explode bombs, sometimes they crash airplanes into buildings, sometimes they go on shooting rampages - as happened at Virginia Tech on Monday. Technology has made each individual potentially more of a menace to society, here and around the world. Not only do people have access to explosives and rapid-firing guns, but the specter of future infernal invention haunts us further. What new methods of mayhem will be concocted? The forces of peace and order are not equipped to deal with oncoming threats. In the United States specifically, presumptions about civil liberties and the right to privacy have greatly constrained our ability to deal with possibly dangerous individuals. On yesterday's "Today" show, Lucinda Roy, a creative writing professor at Virginia Tech, recalled her interaction with Cho Seung-Hui, the mass killer, describing him as "incredibly bizarre . . . one of the most disturbed students I have ever seen." And while authorities seemed alert to the ominous implications of Cho's behavior, they also seemed to have been thwarted from taking any intervening action. At a press conference in Blacksburg, Va., Virginia Tech police chief Wendell Flinchum itemized a string of incidents reaching back two years in which two students had reported Cho as a stalker. And yet, Flinchum and other authorities cited the privacy provisions contained within the federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 as the reason they couldn't act more decisively. Did Congress and the president really intend, 11 years ago, to elevate Cho's "right to privacy" to such an absurd level? The police chief said he was having trouble gaining access to records on the previous incidents even now. Even after Cho murdered 32 people.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 40yearsofliberalism; banglist; cho; dhimmis; islam; jihad; leftistsandislamists; liberalism; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslims; pinkerton; rtkba; terrorism; vatech; virginiatech
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To: livius

“They don’t use direct, clear words, because if they’re blunt, they’re implicated.”
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Peggy Noonan hit it on the head... this nation has become so PC that any semblance of common sense has vanished.


41 posted on 04/20/2007 10:33:30 AM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards.")
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To: archy
"You hang around the wrong people under age 30."

Not by choice, and not most of the time. My profession has me interacting with many sheeple on a day to day basis whether I like it or not.

When I can, and that is indeed most of the time, I do tend, as ExSoldier mentioned, to "hang with the sheepdogs".

It's sad to think that we're outnumbered 10,000 to one.

Stay well, archy!

42 posted on 04/20/2007 10:40:12 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Did Congress and the president really intend, 11 years ago, to elevate Cho’s “right to privacy” to such an absurd level?”

No. The Bolsheviks were hoping to keep themselves hidden and undiscovered.

43 posted on 04/20/2007 10:45:09 AM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: Dead Corpse

“Unless we get this figured out, the United States will go the way of Rome...”

I agree. Hopefully, something stronger will raise from the ashes.


44 posted on 04/20/2007 10:49:53 AM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: Joe Brower
The sheepdog essay? It's been done here. In fact, IIRC I first found it on FR. Just ping everybody to this thread and my post #.
45 posted on 04/20/2007 11:43:47 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: livius
And there’s always the good old staple, clawing and eye-gouging, if no tool is handy.

Funny you should mention that. When my daughter was first going off to college about ten years ago, I undertook to teach her some self defense. Nothing fancy. Simple stuff that works first time everytime.

I told her to take this ziplock bag of grapes and carefully but decisively crush them between thumb and forefinger. She was curious, but did as I asked having learned that there is method to my madness. When she'd gotten thru the messy ordeal, I explained that in a forced sex situation an opportunity may present itself to kiss and she should resist but FAINTLY. Struggle weakly. Then shift modes and "get into it" at the same time bring her hands up to each side of the man's face and "caress" the face slowly sliding them to the front. When properly positioned, suddenly THRUST both thumbs deep into both eyes. Think to the base of the thumb. That squishing sensation is the two eyeballs exploding and running all over the hands. Simple but effective. This move may well result in death from the shock. I taught her a move for nearly every conceivable situation. Thankfully, she never had to use any of them...at least not to my knowledge. I'm just happy I was able to prepare her for most any security threat. These days, she's happily married and the owner of a Ruger SP101 .357 magnum and she's very good.

46 posted on 04/20/2007 5:47:06 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Joe Brower

Exactly right. I just watched the Omnimax Hurricane on the Bayou movie today about the Katrina storm. It was good, but so alarming that so many people stayed when warned that a category 5 hurricane was bearing down on them. What could they be thinking other than, “Uncle Sam will rescue ME!” (The narrator -liberal Meryl Streep- even said several times that the emergency response was inadequate...how do you get an immediate response to an emergency when people are risking their lives to go back into an area that was supposed to be evacuated in the first place!).

Anyway, this just shows the complacency of the average American. Don’t worry, pal, the government will take care of everybody. No need to take care of yourself or those around you.


47 posted on 04/20/2007 6:31:00 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: ExSoldier

LOL! Yucky but effective!


48 posted on 04/20/2007 6:32:39 PM PDT by livius
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To: Dead Corpse

“It almost made me vomit to see one of Cho’s victims Father sobbing on TV saying how he forgives Cho, how his daughter would have forgiven him, how we just need “healing”... Such a broken mindset.”

I was sickened when I heard today that there were 33 monuments placed on the VT drillfield to honor the victims.

INCLUDING ONE MONUMENT THAT STOOD FOR THE MURDERER CHO!


49 posted on 04/20/2007 6:34:14 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: Reddy
This is the mindset of Liberal academia, and the brainwashing of the student body! These students should be demanding change from thier administrators and faculty, they should be mad as hell that the system in place to protect them failed because no one had the balls to get rid of this guy or anyone else who acted this way. A tenured professor threatened to quit if they did not get this kid of the campus, He set fire to his dorm room, stalked women, and made everyone in his class so uncomfortable they had to tutor him privately. This is a normal reaction you would get from Administrators at a University? Time for change students , If you don’t grab it now you will be lulled to sleep by thier idiocy.and no changes will be made, business as usual until the next time!
50 posted on 04/20/2007 6:54:48 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there should be training for individuals throughout our country to take immediate action against perps like cho and islamic terrorists.

recent military combat experience would be a plus.


51 posted on 04/20/2007 6:59:58 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: archy

Good post. I attended college on the GI Bill like many others...I can tell you that every former soldier and every former marine carried some type of firearm and or knife in college. Then again...I attended a school in West Texas.

There are wolves...and then there are sheep.


52 posted on 04/20/2007 7:09:19 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: ken21

I think every college campus should form a militia.


53 posted on 04/20/2007 7:10:06 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Reddy
INCLUDING ONE MONUMENT THAT STOOD FOR THE MURDERER CHO!

Unbelievable! Sick and depraved behavior if this is true.

54 posted on 04/20/2007 7:11:48 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

i agree.

but you can’t use the word “militia”.

our media has deliberately diminished the word by applying it to al sadr’s army.


55 posted on 04/20/2007 7:13:29 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: ken21
Oh yeah. I forgot. How about we call it "The Society for Peace and West Texas Justice"?
56 posted on 04/20/2007 7:16:55 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

you can’t use the word “peace”

because the leftists have a

copyright on it! (/s)

just joking.

i like the “west texas justice” part. i know california libs that hate texas and just that phrase would keep them in line.


57 posted on 04/20/2007 7:19:19 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Badeye
If just one person in Norris Hall was armed, the death/casualty rate would probably have been greatly reduced.

If just one person had dropped an Alka Seltzer into a water bottle and tossed it into the hallway it would have immediately made Cho more circumspect and the death/casualty rate would probably have been greatly reduced.

Best regards,

58 posted on 04/25/2007 3:58:44 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

Uh huh, right.


59 posted on 04/26/2007 5:33:03 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: Badeye
Uh huh, right.

Be happy to hear your suggestions.

Best regards,

60 posted on 04/28/2007 8:50:45 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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