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ATHEISTS WON'T SAVE EUROPE
Grasstops USA ^ | April 18, 2007 | Don Feder

Posted on 04/19/2007 4:11:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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21 posted on 04/19/2007 10:01:10 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What do atheists have to offer in place of God to give meaning to life -- democracy, human rights, reason, la dolce vita?

Responsibility, self-reliance, self-improvement, resolution, and science. Philosophically, I find Atheism quite fulfilling; much more so than the Catholicism, and Stoicism I practiced beforehand. The people and things that it has taught me to value are things that I would gladly fight and die for.

22 posted on 04/19/2007 10:04:01 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Ditto.


23 posted on 04/19/2007 10:04:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Thank you for your insight, however, I didn't write the title ATHEISTS WON"T SAVE EUROPE,,, I just added the line : Neither will socialism or liberalism.
I am sure there are still Europeans who are of the old school friends of American, and still hold the values of what we hold dear also.
Interestingly, there was a C-SPAN show about 3 years ago with John Gibson hosting a book signing and he talked about this very subject.
Of how the MSM Press in Europe has the loudest voice of Anti-Americanism.
One thing to note, he said about the current misguided Europeans who are making the rest look bad, who are anti American and so forth, he said that what some of the older folk who remember how the USA helped win the freedom in Europe in WWII say to these younger or misguided is " What are you doing ? what are you thinking ? "
24 posted on 04/19/2007 10:22:33 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

“”Nothing. I’ve never seen atheists get together for any sort of hands-on charity work, like building houses for earthquake victims, caring for the disabled, building schools, hospitals, manning soup kitchens, or whatever.””

You haven’t been around much then. The Salvation Army is not the only charitable organisation you know.


25 posted on 04/20/2007 12:38:37 AM PDT by kopite
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To: kopite

Christianity, Islam...it’s all the same. Complete bollocks and should be done away with.

This is no longer the Middle Ages.


26 posted on 04/20/2007 12:39:45 AM PDT by kopite
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To: Timmy

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27 posted on 04/20/2007 12:46:37 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Interestingly the (to Americans who indulge in anti-Europeanism) most secular part of "old" Europe -France- has the highest fertility rate on the old continent with 1.98 births/woman.

How much of this statistic is impacted by the exceedingly high birthrate of muslims, that happen to be a larger percentage of the population in France than most of the rest of Europe? I suspect that if one took the birthrate for non-muslim French one would find a much different picture.

I assume you've heard the saying...there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

28 posted on 04/20/2007 12:54:07 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: jmcenanly

As environmentalism and more conventional liberal dogmas show, not only are modern secularists desperate for a higher cause on behalf of which they can crusade and find higher meaning in life, but they are also vastly ignorant of life’s sobering realities like the peril that underlies self-righteousness and the hopeless tailspin that moral relativism boils down to.


29 posted on 04/20/2007 5:26:59 AM PDT by Mmmike
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Europe: The culture of nothing.


30 posted on 04/20/2007 7:21:26 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Believe it or not: Europe will be saved by its own great people.

I sincerely hope you're right, though the numbers seem to indicate otherwise. I'm a big fan of Western Civiliation and I do NOT want to see the cradle of Western Civilization wiped out by the muslim hordes.

By the way, a thumbs up to European efforts to lower their corporate income tax rates. There's an example we would do well to follow. (See, we can be more like Europe without becoming more socialist! :-) )

31 posted on 04/20/2007 11:43:41 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Feel the love...)
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To: kopite

I don’t know. I’m beginning to think that Bible-thumping, old-time, “knuckle-dragging, homophobic” Christianity would be a lot better for America than the current depraved, self-centered culture.

Who would you rather meet on the street? Britney Spears or Mother Theresa (may the latter rest in peace)? Keith Richards or Pope Benedict? Paris Hilton or Franklin Graham?


32 posted on 04/20/2007 11:55:04 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Feel the love...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Domestically, demographic differences parallel religious observance. Salt Lake City and Tupelo, Mississippi have higher fertility rates than Manhattan and San Francisco.

Whoo hoo!! Preach it, Mr. Feder!!

33 posted on 04/21/2007 8:13:55 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: jmcenanly
The problem with atheists in not that believe in nothing, but that they will believe in anything.

Such as?

34 posted on 04/21/2007 8:15:16 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: kopite
Complete bollocks and should be done away with.

How tolerant of you. Should we bring back the guillotine or would you prefer concentration camps?

35 posted on 04/21/2007 8:18:59 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Perhaps it's time for America and Europe to return to that old-time "knuckle-dragging, homophobic" religion...

Pass.

36 posted on 04/21/2007 8:19:37 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Wormwood
The problem with atheists in not that believe in nothing, but that they will believe in anything.

Such as?

They seem to believe that the best way to dal with a teroist is to give them what they ask for.

37 posted on 04/22/2007 6:13:15 AM PDT by jmcenanly (Cowards take hostages. We do not.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Caleb1411

Ping


39 posted on 04/23/2007 5:53:41 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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