Posted on 04/19/2007 7:38:26 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
Police believe the Virginia gunman may have been copying scenes from a film when he carried out his killing spree.
Scene from Oldboy and Seung-HuiDetectives say Cho Seung-Hui repeatedly watched the South Korean movie Oldboy in the days leading up to the massacre in which 32 people were killed.
The film's themes of obsession and revenge also occur in Cho's own writings.
In a chilling video sent by the student to the American TV network NBC he appears to re-enact scenes from the movie in a series of photographs.
In one he holds a gun to his own head and in another wields a hammer, images that appear in the film.
The video also confirms that Cho had been planning the killings for some time.
Advertisement It is believed to have been posted after the first shooting in a university dormitory, in which two students were killed, but before Cho shot dead another 30 people in a classroom across campus and then committed suicide.
Police said the package that contained photographs, video and writings could be a "very new critical component" of the investigation into the mass killings.
The video contains a rambling and at times incoherent account of his grievances and his reasons for the shootings.
The package Cho sent to NBCVirginia Police superintendent Col Steve Flaherty said: "We're in the process of attempting to analyse and evaluate its worth."
The package, addressed to NBC News head Steve Capus, bears a postal stamp in the two-hour window between the first shooting and the second, in which Cho killed himself.
It was passed to the FBI after it arrived yesterday.
In the video Cho talks to the camera and at one point makes a reference to the massacre, saying "this didn't have to happen".
In one clip, Cho says: "You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today.
Some of the victims"But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off."
One of the 29 pictures in the package showed Cho staring at the camera with his arms outstretched, brandishing two handguns and wearing what appeared to be a military-style jacket for holding ammunition.
The latest revelations come after it emerged Cho was held in a mental health unit after two women students complained about his behaviour in 2005.
University police chief Wendell Flinchum said officers spoke to Cho in November and December 2005 following complaints of low-level harassment.
You made up the first part, too, that Farsi is an Arabic dialect. It is not.
Farsi is an Indo-European language.
Arabic is a Semitic language.
Oddly enough, QT loving a movie is a sterling recommendation for some of us.
No, It was in a Post Office envelope.
Fed-Ex uses the same type, but the picture was of one that had USPS and Post Office written on it.
I don't recall the name, it's over by my buddies house 2 suburbs away. Good size store, pretty decent selection.
There was a Postal Inspector at the news conference that said that it was dropped off at the Post Office at the time it was stamped, and the postal employee recalled the shooter dropping it off.
Did a postal clerk take it from him personally during that two hour time frame, or had he put it in the mailbox, where the workers picked it up, time stamped it, then sent it on? Every post office has those Express Mail envelopes out there for anyone to take and use. Does that particular post office location have security cameras that show customers at the counter?
What thread do you think you are posting to? Inquiring minds want to know
The remake of a Korean film of the same name, a recently paroled middle-aged man, who spent 15 years in prison without any explanation as to why he was jailed, seeks revenge on those who conspired against him.
It’s like Sam Kinison’s routine about Charles Manson and the Beatles’ White album...
“YOU WOULDA GOT THE SAME MESSAGE OUTTA THE MONKEES YOU F—IN’ D—HEAD! ‘LAST TRAIN TO CLARKSVILLE, WHITEY’! THEY WEREN’T EVEN A REAL GROUP, YOU F—!”
It should be clear to anyone who saw this horrible video that that lunatic did not say the word “Islam.”
I was certain in the news clips I watched that they were showing a “fed-ex” type package, but maybe they were and it wasn’t the package HE sent, (typical TV journalism using “file footage”).
I was also told by someone else here that they know he handed the package to a mail person who stamped it for time. So I guess he did run off to the post office on his way to do the deed.
But the question is what kind of impact. Obsessive people are going to obsess on things, that’s what they do, and they will often emulate in some way what they obsess on it allows them to continue their obsession. So the question really becomes was this a case of a violent nutburger who obsessed on a movie that “expressed” (at leats to him) whatever lame excuses he was cooking up for his rampage, or did he watch this movie too many times and it turned him into a violent nutburger? Well the history of these things shows it’s the former. Sure these guys all tend to obsess on something, often a movie, but there are millions of these people that watch these movies, probably dozens or even hundreds who watch them just as many times as the psycho, but they don’t go on to kill.
And often these killers have a blatant mis-interpretation of the movie that “inspires” them. Look at Columbine, those jerks were obsessed with Natural Born Killers, a movie they (and others) thought glorified two psycho killers. In fact the point of the movie is a criticism of how the media glorifies psycho killers, in the movie the killers are just nuts and kind of stupid, but the media blows them up to counter culture heroic perportions. And of course if you look at how NBC is handling the package from Cho right now the movie would appear to be right.
Cho probably got some of his style from the movie, but the movie didn’t make him do it. He was a nutburger looking for a time and a method, nobody knows yet why he picked the time but apparently he picked the method from this movie. Without this movie he would have picked his style from a different movie, or maybe he would have actually been original and picked his own style. But one way or the other he was going to kill people, he spent way too long planning this for anything but him to be the true source.
The grief NBC is getting now is silly. People need to see that there are actually people like in this world: very sick and dangerous people who can't function in normal society. Why should we be afraid to look in the face of evil and see the truth?
In an earlier day and age, a guy like this would almost certainly have been put away in an insane asylum where he belonged, probably for the rest of his life. But at some point our society decided that it wasn't comfortable doing that sort of thing much anymore.
As we have seen, we can pay a heavy price for that kind of mushy, soft naivete.
I make it all up.
The U.S. Postal Service Express Mail forms look similar to FED EX forms. I think that’s why some people are confused into thinking it was sent FED EX.
We all know that movies do impress and influence people. TV Commercials are nothing more nor less than mini-movies and we are force fed more minutes of them than of the movie they sponsor. Sponsors would not collectively pay billions of dollars for mini-movie commercial spots, that have no effect on viewers.
Many idiots these days look to movies as their news source. Consider such trash as “Fahrenheit 911, An inconvenient truth” to name just two, that are hyped as Gospel by the producers, liberal politicians and their MSM, and accepted that way by hordes of fools.
I believe Savage said it was the “f” word.
Jeez, how creepy is that? Just come from murdering two people. Then stand in line patiently to mail the envelope prior to heading out for the massacre of 32 more. Cold blooded, very cold blooded.
>>I’m sure it won’t be too long before somebody notices that “Oldboy” sounds a lot like “Al-Dubai.” Just to maintain that tenuous Islamic connection, doncha know.<<
Forgive me for saying so, but you seem to be the one grasping at straws and making ridiculous accusations.
Hmm..."Lazamataz"...that's a Farsi name, isn't it, Comrade?
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