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'We're Sorry You Saw The Video'
Sky News ^ | April 19, 2007 | sky news

Posted on 04/19/2007 7:38:26 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

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To: Lazamataz

You made up the first part, too, that Farsi is an Arabic dialect. It is not.

Farsi is an Indo-European language.
Arabic is a Semitic language.


61 posted on 04/19/2007 9:02:27 AM PDT by dmz
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Hey what a surprise! Quentin Tarantino absolutely LOVED the movie!

Oddly enough, QT loving a movie is a sterling recommendation for some of us.

62 posted on 04/19/2007 9:02:32 AM PDT by cryptical (Bruce Schneier can smell weak keys.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It was sent Fed-Ex, right?

No, It was in a Post Office envelope.

Fed-Ex uses the same type, but the picture was of one that had USPS and Post Office written on it.

63 posted on 04/19/2007 9:04:32 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Brian Mosely
Really? You must have a pretty hip video store. I live in a fairly socially retarded area, so I have to rely on Amazon for my DVDs.

I don't recall the name, it's over by my buddies house 2 suburbs away. Good size store, pretty decent selection.

64 posted on 04/19/2007 9:05:20 AM PDT by cryptical (Bruce Schneier can smell weak keys.)
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To: SuziQ
Everyone is assuming that he wrote all this and mailed it in that two hour time frame, but as you noted, he could have dropped it off well before the shootings, and it only got logged into the system in that two hour span.

There was a Postal Inspector at the news conference that said that it was dropped off at the Post Office at the time it was stamped, and the postal employee recalled the shooter dropping it off.

65 posted on 04/19/2007 9:08:19 AM PDT by cryptical (Bruce Schneier can smell weak keys.)
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To: Norman Conquest
It was sent US Postal Service priority mail, received by a postal clerk. The postmark has a timestamp.

Did a postal clerk take it from him personally during that two hour time frame, or had he put it in the mailbox, where the workers picked it up, time stamped it, then sent it on? Every post office has those Express Mail envelopes out there for anyone to take and use. Does that particular post office location have security cameras that show customers at the counter?

66 posted on 04/19/2007 9:11:34 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: syriacus

What thread do you think you are posting to? Inquiring minds want to know


67 posted on 04/19/2007 9:11:50 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (No.. I said he was a Korean student, not a Koran student)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
According to IMDB there's a remake of the 2003 Korean film "OldBoy" in production to be released in 2008.

The remake of a Korean film of the same name, a recently paroled middle-aged man, who spent 15 years in prison without any explanation as to why he was jailed, seeks revenge on those who conspired against him.

68 posted on 04/19/2007 9:14:04 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Brian Mosely

It’s like Sam Kinison’s routine about Charles Manson and the Beatles’ White album...

“YOU WOULDA GOT THE SAME MESSAGE OUTTA THE MONKEES YOU F—IN’ D—HEAD! ‘LAST TRAIN TO CLARKSVILLE, WHITEY’! THEY WEREN’T EVEN A REAL GROUP, YOU F—!”


69 posted on 04/19/2007 9:15:14 AM PDT by itsamelman (?Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.? -- Al Swearengen)
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To: 2banana

It should be clear to anyone who saw this horrible video that that lunatic did not say the word “Islam.”


70 posted on 04/19/2007 9:16:16 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: SuziQ

I was certain in the news clips I watched that they were showing a “fed-ex” type package, but maybe they were and it wasn’t the package HE sent, (typical TV journalism using “file footage”).

I was also told by someone else here that they know he handed the package to a mail person who stamped it for time. So I guess he did run off to the post office on his way to do the deed.


71 posted on 04/19/2007 9:16:48 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: hoyaloya

But the question is what kind of impact. Obsessive people are going to obsess on things, that’s what they do, and they will often emulate in some way what they obsess on it allows them to continue their obsession. So the question really becomes was this a case of a violent nutburger who obsessed on a movie that “expressed” (at leats to him) whatever lame excuses he was cooking up for his rampage, or did he watch this movie too many times and it turned him into a violent nutburger? Well the history of these things shows it’s the former. Sure these guys all tend to obsess on something, often a movie, but there are millions of these people that watch these movies, probably dozens or even hundreds who watch them just as many times as the psycho, but they don’t go on to kill.

And often these killers have a blatant mis-interpretation of the movie that “inspires” them. Look at Columbine, those jerks were obsessed with Natural Born Killers, a movie they (and others) thought glorified two psycho killers. In fact the point of the movie is a criticism of how the media glorifies psycho killers, in the movie the killers are just nuts and kind of stupid, but the media blows them up to counter culture heroic perportions. And of course if you look at how NBC is handling the package from Cho right now the movie would appear to be right.

Cho probably got some of his style from the movie, but the movie didn’t make him do it. He was a nutburger looking for a time and a method, nobody knows yet why he picked the time but apparently he picked the method from this movie. Without this movie he would have picked his style from a different movie, or maybe he would have actually been original and picked his own style. But one way or the other he was going to kill people, he spent way too long planning this for anything but him to be the true source.


72 posted on 04/19/2007 9:22:38 AM PDT by discostu (only things a western savage understands are whiskey and rifles and an unarmed)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Very rarely do I ever come to the defense of the old dinosaur media, but I'm going to here.

The grief NBC is getting now is silly. People need to see that there are actually people like in this world: very sick and dangerous people who can't function in normal society. Why should we be afraid to look in the face of evil and see the truth?

In an earlier day and age, a guy like this would almost certainly have been put away in an insane asylum where he belonged, probably for the rest of his life. But at some point our society decided that it wasn't comfortable doing that sort of thing much anymore.

As we have seen, we can pay a heavy price for that kind of mushy, soft naivete.

73 posted on 04/19/2007 9:25:33 AM PDT by jpl
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To: dmz

I make it all up.


74 posted on 04/19/2007 9:26:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The U.S. Postal Service Express Mail forms look similar to FED EX forms. I think that’s why some people are confused into thinking it was sent FED EX.


75 posted on 04/19/2007 9:27:35 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: hoyaloya; All
You know NBC would never do that. Shame on you for even suggesting it. ;-)

We all know that movies do impress and influence people. TV Commercials are nothing more nor less than mini-movies and we are force fed more minutes of them than of the movie they sponsor. Sponsors would not collectively pay billions of dollars for mini-movie commercial spots, that have no effect on viewers.

Many idiots these days look to movies as their news source. Consider such trash as “Fahrenheit 911, An inconvenient truth” to name just two, that are hyped as Gospel by the producers, liberal politicians and their MSM, and accepted that way by hordes of fools.

76 posted on 04/19/2007 9:34:15 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Well armed intended victims often leave police desperately seeking sufficient DNA to identify perps.)
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To: 2banana

I believe Savage said it was the “f” word.


77 posted on 04/19/2007 9:34:31 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: SuziQ
While the priority mail envelopes can be picked up in advance, they still have to be processed when mailed. Since extra services charges are rolled up into the total postage charge, the print out of the metered label (with date and charges) does not occur until the package is actually mailed. I imagine large customers might have some sort of in-house metering to speed things up but that didn’t apply in this case. Cho probably did pick up the envelopes earlier but had to take it to the post office that morning for mailing.

Jeez, how creepy is that? Just come from murdering two people. Then stand in line patiently to mail the envelope prior to heading out for the massacre of 32 more. Cold blooded, very cold blooded.

78 posted on 04/19/2007 9:34:34 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: r9etb

>>I’m sure it won’t be too long before somebody notices that “Oldboy” sounds a lot like “Al-Dubai.” Just to maintain that tenuous Islamic connection, doncha know.<<

Forgive me for saying so, but you seem to be the one grasping at straws and making ridiculous accusations.


79 posted on 04/19/2007 9:39:16 AM PDT by SerpentDove (If you believe Al Gore, I've got some carbon credits I'll sell you.)
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To: Lazamataz
I make it all up.

Hmm..."Lazamataz"...that's a Farsi name, isn't it, Comrade?

80 posted on 04/19/2007 9:40:01 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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