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Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?
The New American ^ | 03/07.2003 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 04/18/2007 11:46:31 PM PDT by Verax

Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?

By William F. Jasper

Created 2007-03-07 18:33

In a 19-page affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City, convicted Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Lynn Nichols alleges that the bombing plot was actually under the supervision of top FBI officials. According to a February 21 report in Salt Lake City's Deseret News, the Nichols affidavit charges that Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for his role in the bombing, was actually working under Larry Potts, the controversial FBI official who was forced to resign under a cloud for his roles in two other major FBI scandals: the deadly FBI assaults on Ruby Ridge in 1992 and Waco in 1993. Terry Nichols is not a terribly credible witness: he's a mass murderer and he lied consistently through the OKC investigation, but his claims should not be dismissed outright.

As the assistant director in charge of criminal investigations at FBI headquarters, Larry Potts was the Washington-based manager of the 1992 operation against the Randy Weaver family near Ruby Ridge in remote northern Idaho. In that incredible and tragic operation, Randy Weaver's wife Vicki was shot in the head and killed by an FBI sniper, while holding her infant child. The Weavers' 14-year-old son Sammy was also killed, shot in the back by federal agents. Larry Potts was the FBI official who approved the illegal "license to kill" order that resulted in those deaths.

The FBI's infamous assault on the Branch Davidian church complex near Waco, Texas, left more than 80 people dead, including 22 children. Potts, again, played a key role, both in authorizing the use of deadly force against innocent civilians, and, later, in the campaign of lies and coverups aimed at thwarting congressional investigations into the deadly fiasco.

Larry Potts was also the FBI's man charged with overall supervisory responsibility for the Oklahoma City bombing investigation in 1995. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, FBI Director Louis Freeh, and Bob Ricks, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Oklahoma City office, Potts helped misdirect the OKC investigation, purposely steering investigators away from individuals who should have been considered top suspects as McVeigh's co-conspirators in the bombing plot.

One of the primary suspects who benefited from this misdirection was Andreas Strassmeir, a German national who was in the United States illegally and was serving as chief of security at the white separatist compound known as "Elohim City," in rural eastern Oklahoma. McVeigh's phone records show he called the compound on the same day that he called the Ryder truck agency to rent the vehicle used for the truck bomb.

According to the FBI's own documents, the witness at Elohim City who took the call said McVeigh was calling for Strassmeir. Elohim City was well-known as a hangout and hideout for the notorious Aryan Republican Army bank robbers, several of whom have turned out to be federal informants or agents provocateur.

Rather than arresting and questioning Strassmeir, the FBI allowed him to wander freely for eight months and then slip into Mexico before fleeing back to Germany. Andreas Strassmeir and McVeigh's connections to Elohim City have been subject of numerous reports in The New American's extensive and ongoing investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing. (See, for example, "Elohim, Terror, and Truth [0]" and "Undercover: The Howe Revelations [0]." The latter title refers to Carol Howe, an ATF informant who provided federal agents prior knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing.)

After Louis Freeh promoted Potts to be his top assistant, he was forced to demote and suspend him when congressional and Justice Department investigations revealed Potts' illegal activities in the Ruby Ridge and Waco operations. Was Potts "running" Strassmeir, McVeigh, and other OKC bombing suspects who were listed in the original federal indictment as "others unknown"? The answer to that question may be revealed when other sealed FBI documents on Elohim City, McVeigh, and Strassmeir are released.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: elohimcity; larrypotts; okc; oklahomacity; strassmeir; terrynichols; tinfoil
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To: endthematrix

Throught?

Throughout!


21 posted on 04/19/2007 12:54:13 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: endthematrix
Was Horiuchi found not guilty of the murders at Ruby Ridge?

If he was never put on trial and never found guilty the current administration could bring an indictment and put him on trial for murder.

22 posted on 04/19/2007 1:01:24 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

I don’t know what the status is about a State case. Considering how the current Administration feels about Border Patrol agents...


23 posted on 04/19/2007 1:09:20 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: endthematrix
The point is that both Ruby Ridge and Waco were disasters, not because of who was President during each but because the federal apparatus is oppressive or simply aloof no mater who is in the White House.
24 posted on 04/19/2007 1:11:55 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
However, Clinton did make personal decisions on what to do in many important cases that POTUS shouldn’t have. Maybe I’m naive as to the power of the POTUS to operational and tactical control over an law enforcement operation.
25 posted on 04/19/2007 1:20:10 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: endthematrix
"Howe told the Gazette, “All Andy wanted to do was blow up federal buildings. That’s the truth. He even told the young radicals he was training that, if they wouldn’t go to war with the U.S. government, he would leave and find a group that would.”

These guys were a dime a dozen. They were a regular feature act that attempted to join our Alabama Militia month after month.

Same exact spiel. White guys. Clean cut. Just "moved into the neighborhood" and were always able to know just who to contact to join up.

And then they'd rant about blowing up federal buildings at every gathering that we let them hang out at.

Time after time. It was a running joke that the pay must be good for feds to keep sending their white guys in to agitate.

Didn't slow down until after 9/11/01.

26 posted on 04/19/2007 1:24:00 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Verax
The FBI is good at draining swamps in search of anthrax and hunting down porno. Everything else is way too complicated for them.
27 posted on 04/19/2007 1:28:47 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Verax

LT. ANDREAS STRASSMEIR - PzGren (SPz)

Chapter Six

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Regnery Publishing Inc. - Washington D.C.
The Unreported Stories - 1997

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b275f5c16b8.htm


28 posted on 04/19/2007 1:35:05 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: DJtex

> I don’t think that the fertilizer bomb brought down that building.

Are you suggesting that a fertilzer bomb *couldn’t* bring down that building, or that it *didn’t*?

(I know you wrote implied that it “didn’t”: I am wondering if you are also implying that McVeigh’s bomb was incapable of doing the damage.)

It’s difficult to see how Clinton could have possibly benefited from the Oklahoma City bombings sufficiently to warrant a full-on Presidential cover-up. Where were you going with that idea?


29 posted on 04/19/2007 1:36:23 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: ccmay
To bring down a modern multi-storey building requires tons of explosives, miles of det cord, much drilling and cutting, weeks of preparation, and a large number of co-conspirators. Beyond doubt, this did not take place either in Oklahoma City or at the WTC.

You've just explained why it COULD NOT have been just a simple fertilizer bomb parked out in front. DUH?!

General Ben Parton, in charge of the research for "blowing things up" for the Airforce for 25 years did an extensive writeup on how it was ridiculous to think that it was just the fertilizer truck bomb.

30 posted on 04/19/2007 2:33:55 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: ccmay
To bring down a modern multi-storey building requires tons of explosives, miles of det cord, much drilling and cutting, weeks of preparation, and a large number of co-conspirators

So you admit that jet fuel fire could not have demolished WTC? Interesting.

31 posted on 04/19/2007 3:25:12 AM PDT by Verax
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To: DieHard the Hunter
RE: "It’s difficult to see how Clinton could have possibly benefited from the Oklahoma City bombings sufficiently to warrant a full-on Presidential cover-up."

I think Clinton was just trying something that worked against conservatives -- to some extent -- years earlier. He blamed conservatives.

I remember that there was some effort on the left to blame the emerging modern conservative movement for the assassination of JFK. It was conservative criticism of JFK that made Oswald do it, they said.

For example, though I do not remember Walter Cronkite saying this on the air but I have read that he reported that Senator Barry Goldwater was asked about the JFK assassination and snapped, "No comment." Cronkite later apologized, I've read. I definitely do remember CBS and other MSM employees' lies about Goldwater, though.

Also I definitely do remember conservative groups being roundly condemned for their criticism of JFK and the "climate of hate" (I believe was the phrase used) that Conservatives had created.

As I recall Clinton got a bump in poll numbers after OKC. IMO that alone was enough for a White House-directed quick end to the OKC investigation and the punishment of the two "lone" white guys.

32 posted on 04/19/2007 3:25:34 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Verax

If you trust the F.B.I., or the B.A.T.F. then you are a fool.


33 posted on 04/19/2007 3:38:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Verax

If you trust the F.B.I., or the B.A.T.F. then you are a fool.


34 posted on 04/19/2007 3:40:01 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Verax
Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?

No.

35 posted on 04/19/2007 3:43:52 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Verax

Federal Convict Terry Lynn Nichols is innocent!!!!

All convicts in any prison are innocent!

Just ask them, they’ll swear it’s true!


36 posted on 04/19/2007 4:10:41 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Southack
And then they'd rant about blowing up federal buildings at every gathering that we let them hang out at.

Time after time. It was a running joke that the pay must be good for feds to keep sending their white guys in to agitate.

They haven't changed much in decades. Some 60s radical (I forget which one) said they could aways tell who was the FBI agent trying to infiltrate their group because he was the one who wanted to blow something up right away.

38 posted on 04/19/2007 4:42:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: endthematrix

“Throught?”

An intellectual dry spell?.....:)

[ where I live, throughout is actually pronounced throught so I got your drift right away].....;-D


39 posted on 04/19/2007 4:46:34 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Nathan Zachary
And the goverment has alien families that crashed on earth while abducting cows and sucking out their brains living in secret bases in area 51. The government already has spaceships built that can zip to other gallaxies an mere hours, and have already started colonizing several planets in several galaxies... /s

Is this where the government got the machines to control the weather?

40 posted on 04/19/2007 5:56:52 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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