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Intimidating and bullying mass amounts of students and teachers. And this doesn't get you expelled and a restraining order because why exactly?

This total NUT should have been dealt with a long time ago??

WTF is wrong with this school?????

And MAN talk about liberalism madness, giving the guy A grades because they are scared of him???

1 posted on 04/18/2007 8:14:18 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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This guy should have been in the looney bin.


41 posted on 04/18/2007 8:37:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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He should have been taken out back and had the s*** kicked out of him a long time ago.

Liberalism and multiculturalism are going to get us all killed.


43 posted on 04/18/2007 8:38:01 AM PDT by Deo volente
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" . . . giving the guy A grades because they are scared of him???"

Well, compare it to the way the press deals with the daily insurgent murders in Iraq (no outrage, no condemnation) versus the way they deal with any American mis-steps, e.g., Abu Ghraib - weeks of headlines and editorials condemning the actions of our military, international shock and horror, congressional investigations, etc.
44 posted on 04/18/2007 8:38:24 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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Did PC have something to do with this? The students who complained were not taken seriously because the creep was an “Asian”. Many students were afraid to complain because they didn’t want to be accused of racism.


45 posted on 04/18/2007 8:38:39 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (PC Kills: PC inevitably leads to loss of property and life.)
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WTF is wrong with this school?????

Simple. It is controlled by liberals.

As soon as I read that this psychopath had set a fire in his dorm room, and suffered no consequences, I had that sinking feeling. Cho's psychopathy was the proximate cause of the mass murder, but the ultimate cause was political correctness.

46 posted on 04/18/2007 8:39:05 AM PDT by freespirited
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Not to mention that fact that he allegedly set a fire in his dorm. The guy was definitely criminally insane, but our system of dealing with mental illness does not allow locking someone up against their will. We just give them some pills and send them back into the community.

We had a mentally ill kid (a true sociopath) stalking our family for a few years. When it is a juvenile, it’s even more difficult. People in the community told us that we were making the situation worse by complaining to the police. The police were the only ones that took our complaints seriously, but said that there was little that they could do because of the juvenile laws.


49 posted on 04/18/2007 8:40:28 AM PDT by Eva
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Add perjury to Cho’s list of crimes. When you buy a gun you are required to certify that you have “[n]ever been committed to a mental institution?” on ATF Form 4473. Cho lied and the dealer sold him the gun(s). Another damn law that ain’t gonna fix what’s broken here, except maybe one telling VT that it will respect the CCW laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia and allow concealed carry on campus.


50 posted on 04/18/2007 8:40:29 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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WTF is wrong with this school?????

Colleges are not like high schools. They are no longer acting in loco parentis. That went away with student sit-ins in the 60's. Nowadays, colleges just let kids do their own things, for the most part, and it seems it is rare for a college to actually kick anyone out for anything other than not meeting a minimum required GPA.

53 posted on 04/18/2007 8:42:41 AM PDT by SuziQ
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It’s easy to ask questions in hindsight. In reality, I can sympathize with those in authority at Virginia Tech who failed to remove the guy from campus. Fact is that it might have been much harder to do than it seems for us looking backwards.

1) Weirdness is not unusual in the college-age demographic. Campuses are full of oddness (and always have been).

2) Most of what this guy is said to have done is creepy, but not illegal. You gotta have cause to bring action against someone. He wouldn’t talk to people. He wrote nasty angry scary literature. He took pictures of people without their permission. He had an imaginary brother. He slept with the lights on. He wrote on walls. The stalking rumors seem to me to be the best ammo they had (pardon the sick pun), but little of this is actionable.

3) “He creeps me out” is a valid reason for staying away from someone, but not for kicking him out of school.

4) I watched the CNN interviews with his roommates last night. Horrific, frightening stuff, but it was a case of bits and pieces adding up to a scary picture in retrospect. This guy needed to be locked up, but even the psychiatrists interviewed said that there was not enough to have him committed.

As messed up and angry as this person was, had he been kicked off campus he would most likely have created carnage somewhere else.


57 posted on 04/18/2007 8:45:35 AM PDT by Jedidah
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One vicious result of living in a liberal fantasyland is that obvious, lethal threats like Cho are ignored while the authorities fret over trivial instances of "inappropriate speech" and "insensitivity." More details about his actions at Virginia Tech are certain to emerge, but it's already evident that this kid should have been clearly tagged in such a way that he couldn't buy a firearm through the normal process.

The same thing happened at that other well-known "gun-free zone," Columbine High School, where the murderers-to-be even rehearsed their carnage in the form of a "film documentary" under the very eyes of the educrats.

Zero tolerance? That's only enforced on little kids who point their finger at someone and say, "Bang." Not much risk in making a big deal out of that...

64 posted on 04/18/2007 8:52:32 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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There is also something wrong with teachers with gives an A because of fear of a student. If the student threatens them, they can always file a police report, not give an A. IMHO this sounds like a self-serving statement to justify a grade in this situation.
81 posted on 04/18/2007 9:07:23 AM PDT by Dante3
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How and what the heck did he get two guns onto a school that is gun free? If they are serious about this instead of lip service, they would be taking action to ensure that no guns are on school property. I don’t agree with this, but if you are going to have this rule than make sure that rules work. Search all luggage before they enter University, go through medal detectors everytime they arrive in school, have searches of rooms, smiffing dogs. Hey that is what you do in a no gun school...(That should be a reason not to make a school gun free, but the stupid “in chargers” are to stupid to realize it and then are not smart enough to keep the rules kept...


82 posted on 04/18/2007 9:08:37 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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Nikki Giovanni, who teaches poetry, said she threatened to resign if Cho was not taken out of her class.

I'll call BS on that.  If  she can't produce a written record of it, I consider it drama-crap.

84 posted on 04/18/2007 9:10:10 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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Sounds like the Administration was holding their breaths and hoping he wouldn’t do this. Sounds like it wasn’t hard to figure out who it was, just how to CYA. If he were White he would have been gone a year ago or had the crap beat out of him.

Pray for W and Va Tech


91 posted on 04/18/2007 9:21:23 AM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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WTF is wrong with this school?????

It's not just this school. It's every public college. This is what happens when you make the INSANE into a protected minority group whom the rest of us are expected to tolerate, no matter what they do or appear ready to do.

96 posted on 04/18/2007 9:43:32 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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And MAN talk about liberalism madness, giving the guy A grades because they are scared of him???

It's no different thatn Pelosi making social calls to terrorist states.

101 posted on 04/18/2007 10:12:04 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Yes, after reading all this and some of the replies, I think I would’ve tried to have the little nut committed some time before he starting wasting people who had no idea who he was.


103 posted on 04/18/2007 10:42:39 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Feel the love...)
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This article also answers the question of why the university was not locked down after the first shooting. The police were focusing on the wrong guy, someone they already had in custody:

"Virginia State police spokesman Steve Flaherty said that on investigating the original shooting in the dormitory, the evidence led police to Emily Hilscher's boyfriend, Karl Thornhill, who had dropped her off that morning and who was known to love guns.

It was while police were questioning Karl Thornhill that reports of the second mass shooting at Norris Hall reached them."

108 posted on 04/18/2007 10:57:27 AM PDT by wideminded
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Colleges don’t just kick people out, except for grades or crimes. And he did not commit a crime (maybe the stalking—was he charged?).

One professor went to the police but since he hadn’t done anything, neither could they.


110 posted on 04/18/2007 11:00:05 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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This is because school administrators have lost the chutzpah to stand up to unruly students. The PC madness has gone too far.


111 posted on 04/18/2007 11:00:27 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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