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Was Virginia Tech killer a Muslim terrorist? (Some minor hints he was.)
Allah Pundit, Little Green Footballs, Smoking Gun ^ | 4/17/07 | Dangus

Posted on 04/17/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by dangus

I read the following from Little Green Footballs:

"Apparently, South Korean student Seung Hui Cho signed his note, “Ismail Ax,” and also wrote those words on his arm. All other signs right now point to this being a deranged individual with a history of odd behavior (not a “sudden jihadi”), but this is very curious."

Hotair.com suggests that he meant only to refer to a story by an author named Ishmael:

You probably already know this, but in James Fennimore Cooper’s story “The Prairie,” the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe. Each has a symbolic meaning. The axe — which can either kill or provide shelter — stands for both creation and destruction. Given that the VT killer was an English major, might this be the likely meaning of the words on his arm? Just my two cents.

And its widely reported that Cho's writings freaked out one of his English professors. Smoking Gun had one on-line. I read it.

What immidiately stood out was some of the strange language Cho's character used: All of the characters have typically American names, yet "John" uses some strange epithets. The story is basically about a step-son's unexplained rage at a step-father whom he accuses of killing his real father, and (falsely), of molesting him. The father a "fat piece of pork," and "McPork." (The latter is a mockery of his unusual, and unexplained, last name, McBeef.)

It's only weak evidence, I know, but it's just so straaaange...


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To: Bahbah

I agree.

He was a madman, he went on an evil rampage and murdered 32 people.

Did I leave anything out?


21 posted on 04/17/2007 4:07:36 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet & FredFan)
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To: SE Mom

I think you about covered it.


22 posted on 04/17/2007 4:08:10 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
From a cached Wikipedia entry:

In August 2003, CAIR's former civil-rights coordinator, Randall "Ismail" Royer, was arrested on charges of possessing "in his automobile an AK-47-style rifle and 219 rounds of ammunition"

23 posted on 04/17/2007 4:09:08 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: dangus

It sounds like a senseless killing.


24 posted on 04/17/2007 4:09:43 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: dangus
The story is basically about a step-son's unexplained rage at a step-father whom he accuses of killing his real father, and (falsely), of molesting him.

Sounds like a Va Senator Jim Webb novel.

25 posted on 04/17/2007 4:11:26 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: rwfromkansas

Ditto. People are fishing here.


26 posted on 04/17/2007 4:12:34 PM PDT by ilovew (Almost a college graduate!!!)
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To: dangus

The murderer wrote a play with banging the soles of shoes as an insult, calling someone “McPork” as an insult, wrote “Ismail Ax” on his left arm, ranted against women and debauchery...then killed 32 people (including a Jewish professor who survived the Holocaust) on Holocaust Memorial Day.


27 posted on 04/17/2007 4:13:06 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: FReepaholic
More on CAIR's Randall "Ismail" Royer:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1065175/posts

28 posted on 04/17/2007 4:13:41 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: Plutarch

I was thinking the same thing


29 posted on 04/17/2007 4:14:15 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Charge'em Both Ways)
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To: fooman
Wonder what his upbringing was like? - An eight year old that could not speak the language when he arrived here, it appears no friends, he was all alone and it must have been hell.
30 posted on 04/17/2007 4:16:19 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: FReepaholic
Ismail Randall Royer, a CAIR communications specialist between 1997 and October 2001, was indicted by a grand jury in the eastern district of Virginia in June 2003, on charges that he and 10 other Muslim men were part of a conspiracy to support violent jihad overseas.
31 posted on 04/17/2007 4:16:32 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: dangus

Will be interesting to see in the coming weeks how much the lib media kisses this POS ass as compared to Don Imus. So far I`ve heard every excuse in the book for this punk; “He was depressed, he had a fight with his girlfriend, he was on medication..waaah waaah waaah” How about maybe he was just plain old racist?


32 posted on 04/17/2007 4:18:08 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Bahbah
Many FReepers have this weird desire to paint every murderer as either a Muslim or illegal alien.
33 posted on 04/17/2007 4:18:13 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: dangus
As Reagan said of Hinkley....

Fruity as a nutcake.

I wouldn’t look much beyond that at this point.

Better to focus on opposing the liberal politicization of the aftermath. We are going to have to fight fire with fire on this one folks.

34 posted on 04/17/2007 4:19:16 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: SF Republican

yes indeed. We need to know if he had a koran and what he was doing on his computer. We also need to see the rest of his writings.

The DC snipers were inspired by islam as well.


35 posted on 04/17/2007 4:20:01 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Charles Henrickson
There is truly a fantastic amount of information available on the internet. It's entirely possible Cho knew he had a really serious problem, couldn't do anything about it, and sought knowledge so he could understand what he was seeing in himself without the direct assistance of a professional in the field.

Given what we now know about Cho, Dr. Ismail Ak would seem to be an appropriate source of such information.

It's quite noteworthy that he was just 23 years of age. Just about all the family medical insurance policies would have cut him off at 22, so he'd be without psychiatric advice or services since that time.

There is still a place for formal commitment procedures with the government (SEE: Taxpayers) picking up the tab.

36 posted on 04/17/2007 4:20:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fooman

he lived here in northern VA since he was 8 years old. where would he have been trained? i am thinking he is a normal suburban VA kid gone bad.


37 posted on 04/17/2007 4:20:11 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: dangus

Well if he was he was a quiet one. Usually Allah Ackbar is being yelled when they are in the orgiastic throws of their violence. I haven’t heard any reports of that so far...just that he had a smile and said nothing.


38 posted on 04/17/2007 4:20:25 PM PDT by xp38
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To: fooman

Why do we need to know these things?


39 posted on 04/17/2007 4:21:31 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: FReepaholic

That sounds like the most likely Ismail, must be a more common name than I ever knew. Still doesn’t explain the K or X, though. But Virginia clicks.


40 posted on 04/17/2007 4:22:07 PM PDT by Baladas
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