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"Ismail Ax" and Islam: A Conjecture (Vanity)
Hajj - Dr. Ali Shariati ^ | 4/17/07 | Self

Posted on 04/17/2007 3:26:38 PM PDT by Cicero

You are like Ibrahim ... a great fighter against idolatry. ...

The axe was in his hand! . . . Ibrahim, the fighter of idolatry, came out of the house of "Azar", the idol-maker of his tribe. He broke the idols; he broke Nimrood. He fought against ignorance, oppression and passiveness. ...

You are like Ibrahim! Fight . . . This teaches you to be ready to jump into the fire for Jihad! ...

You are like Ibrahim! Sacrifice your Ismail. ... PUT THE BLADE AT YOUR SON'S THROAT SO THAT YOU MAY TAKE THE BLADE FROM THE EXECUTIONER'S HAND!

Ibrahim's life was filled with struggle when he reached this point- breaking the idols, fighting with Nimrod, tolerating his fire, struggling with Eblis, sacrificing his Ismail, migration, homelessness, loneliness torture, passage from the stage of prophecy to the stage of leadership, . . . from "the house of "Azar" to being "the builder of the ... Kaaba!

How wonderful! Ibrahim and Ismail built the Kaaba. Ibrahim and Ismail, one was saved from the fire and one saved from being sacrificed. ...

You, the builder of Kaaba ... the enemy of idolatry, the tribal leader, the fighter against oppression, ignorance and disbelief ... Everywhere else is insecure and shameful. The earth has become a huge polluted house of prostitution.

It is a slaughterhouse where everything but aggression and discrimination are forbidden.

Now that you are standing in Ibrahim's position and are going to play his role, live like him, be the architect of the Kaaba of your faith. Rescue your people ...

- Make your land a secure land, since you are in a safe area.

- Make the earth a sacred mosque, since you are in the holy mosque. - Since the earth is the "mosque of Allah".

(Excerpt) Read more at al-islam.org ...


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To: WashingtonSource
You make a good point. But, as you say, we haven't *seen* the words yet.

I just find that itan enormous coincidence that "ISMAIL AK" is a leading expert on the psychology of suicidal behavior, antisocial behavior, violent crime, depression, medication for such, etc.

61 posted on 04/17/2007 5:11:23 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson ("ISMAIL AX" is really "ISMAIL AK".)
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To: Charles Henrickson; processing please hold
I do not discount the islam connection being proposed.

I just brought up a recollection of my time playing Diablo II and the reference that I recalled.

I am just throwing it out there as a possibility.

62 posted on 04/17/2007 5:51:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: MK11
it’s interesting that the jews have traditionally been the outcasts and wanderers

One way of reading Genesis is to see the Jews as herdsmen. There seems to be a theme running through much of the Bible of herding vs. agriculture, and indeed these two ways of life tend to be in opposition. Thus we have Abraham going into the hills to herd sheep, while Lot goes down into "the cities of the plain," Sodom and Gomorrah.

Even in the Renaissance you find debates between the pastoral and the agricultural ways of life.

63 posted on 04/17/2007 5:57:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"-AX may also stand for the Alpha Chi Omega women’s fraternity, which I found does have a chapter at Virginia Tech."

I'm curious to know the chapter names of the various Fraternities and Sororities.

AX= Alpha Chi is a national honor society

http://www.harding.edu/alphachi/

Alpha Chi Chapter of Kappa Sigma Fraternity(Cornell)

47. Alpha-Kappa 05-23-1892 Cornell University

http://www.kappasigma.org/chaptersByRollNumber.php?

Alpha Chi chapter of Sigma Kappa(Georgetown, KY)

http://sigmakappa.georgetowncollege.edu/

This could be a reference.

64 posted on 04/17/2007 6:04:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
I just brought up a recollection of my time playing Diablo II and the reference that I recalled.

I understand.

I'm a woman but I go by the name Reaper on halo. Hypothetically speaking, writing that on my arm before I murdered 32 people and then blew my brains out wouldn't even be on my peripheral vision.

65 posted on 04/17/2007 6:09:31 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jet Jaguar

All three of those guys were extremely irritating.


66 posted on 04/17/2007 6:32:37 PM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: processing please hold

Maybe he was the man in a game.

In real life, he was, well, not the man...


67 posted on 04/17/2007 6:35:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: flintsilver7

They were.


68 posted on 04/17/2007 6:36:07 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: processing please hold

But my primary alter ego, used whereever I can use a handle is Knitting a Conundrum, or at least KAC... It’s as much a part of me right now as my married name, and as far as I can tell there isn’t much real difference, except KAC doesn’t get as mad as often as my real self! I have used other personas, and some were just me, but some were different enough that I found myself talking about them in the third person.

I suspect he was role playing that he was his gamer persona...


69 posted on 04/17/2007 6:36:43 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Which one was all the way underground? I remember one of them having a reflect damage enchantment or something like that, and he was really a pain. I’m not sure if it had anything to do with my character (paladin) but every time I would hit him I would in effect be hitting myself.


70 posted on 04/17/2007 6:42:05 PM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: Jet Jaguar
In real life, he was, well, not the man...

Possibly. They do have a saying about Asian men. I don't know personally, it's just something I heard from listening to other women talk about men. You know, girl gossip.

71 posted on 04/17/2007 6:45:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Intriguing.


72 posted on 04/17/2007 6:57:37 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I've never had another persona, although my hubby might disagree with me on that. Flashes and all that that entails. :-)

I suspect he was role playing that he was his gamer persona...

If I ever come up against the Flood or Covenant for real, I'll slip easily into my Reaper role.

To murder innocents because he was possibly role playing(which is not my opinion)suggest he couldn't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. His pre planning negates that possibility. I believe he enjoyed killing for the pure pleasure of killing.

73 posted on 04/17/2007 6:58:20 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I didn’t mean to say that...I meant to say that he wanted to BE his persona, strong and powerful, and able to act upon the bitter violence and anger he had within, and he arranged to do everything towards that end. His persona was the projection of how to act out his anger and be the one who was victimizer, not victim.

It’s still him, but a face, or a mask, if you will, he didn’t feel he could show to other people in everyday life.

It is a form of acting out that a lot of people do. We are all the sums of all these facets of ourselves, but some people compartmentalize pretty strongly. He had a sullen, quiet face he showed to the world, but he wanted to be his warrior, and attack. And one day, he did just that.


74 posted on 04/17/2007 7:18:19 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Cicero

Diane Sawyer mentioned the Ismail Ax inscription on the 10 PM special on ABC. No clarification of meaning.


75 posted on 04/17/2007 7:19:45 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I meant to say that he wanted to BE his persona,

That makes a lot of sense. He was very twisted to project his persona into real life. I wonder if he ever perceived himself to be a victim?

More of his personal and private life I'm sure is going to emerge as the days pass. Maybe we'll get a look inside his world.

It’s still him, but a face, or a mask, if you will, he didn’t feel he could show to other people in everyday life.

Personally I've never had that problem, what people, friends and family see is what I am. I imagine the world is chocked full of people like him who compartmentalize, but thank God, don't act out when it reaches a certain point. I guess they just cope the best they can.

It will be interesting in the days ahead concerning him.

76 posted on 04/17/2007 7:34:32 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

There are two plays he wrote for a creative writing class online...you get the feeling reading them that he felt very victimized, and may have been sexually molested. Most of all, he was very, very angry.

http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/

I feel sorry for the child that got twisted up by whatever set him on that path [ not the him that pulled the trigger that day, but the him who had something go wrong, either by events, trauma or brain chemistry that twisted him up some time long before this.]

We all have to make choices about life. But evil done often begats more evil. And in this day and age, it seems to even get encouraged.


77 posted on 04/17/2007 7:45:17 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: kms61

“...and not very productive.”

I don’t come here to be productive ;-)


78 posted on 04/17/2007 7:48:36 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Paved Paradise

The fact that all names are welcome but the name of Christ should tell you the spirit behind the movement no ?


79 posted on 04/17/2007 7:49:54 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Cicero; UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Interesting. Yes, hitting with a shoe or even showing the bottom of your shoe is a terrible insult for Muslims.

Are you guys sure of what you speak? Is it an insult for Muslims, or for Arabs? In other words, is it a religious or cultural thing (and yes, I understand Islam is as much about culture and politics as it is about religion)?

Does a non-Muslim Arab, or a non-Arab Muslim from say SE Asia feel the same way about the act of striking somebody with the sole of their shoe as a Muslim Arab?

I'm asking only b/c people too often spout what they think they know.

The Ismail Ak theory looks more promising to me.

80 posted on 04/17/2007 7:52:40 PM PDT by bluefish (Are you really that thick, or are you simply trolling for fun?)
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