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Gunman's writings were disturbing (Eagle Scout saves his life by applying a tourniquet from a cord)
Chron.com ^ | 04.17.07 | MATT APUZZO

Posted on 04/17/2007 2:22:21 PM PDT by Coleus

BLACKSBURG, Va. — The gunman in the Virginia Tech massacre was a sullen loner who alarmed professors and classmates with his twisted, blood-drenched creative writing and left a rambling note in his dorm room raging against women and rich kids.  A chilling picture emerged Tuesday of Cho Seung-Hui — a 23-year-old senior majoring in English — a day after the bloodbath that left 33 people dead, including Cho, who killed himself as police closed in. News reports said that he may have been taking medication for depression and that he was becoming increasingly violent and erratic. Despite the many warning signs that came to light in the bloody aftermath, police and university officials offered no clues as to exactly what set Cho off on the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

"He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said.A student who attended Virginia Tech last fall provided obscenity- and violence-laced screenplays that he said Cho wrote as part of a playwriting class they both took. One was about a fight between a stepson and his stepfather, and involved throwing of hammers and attacks with a chainsaw. Another was about students fantasizing about stalking and killing a teacher who sexually molested them. "When we read Cho's plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of," former classmate Ian McFarlane, now an AOL employee, wrote in a blog posted on an AOL Web site. He said he and other students "were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."

"We always joked we were just waiting for him to do something, waiting to hear about something he did," said another classmate, Stephanie Derry. "But when I got the call it was Cho who had done this, I started crying, bawling." Professor Carolyn Rude, chairwoman of the university's English department, said Cho's writing was so disturbing that he had been referred to the university's counseling service. "Sometimes, in creative writing, people reveal things and you never know if it's creative or if they're describing things, if they're imagining things or just how real it might be," Rude said. "But we're all alert to not ignore things like this."

She said she did not know when he was referred for counseling, or what the outcome was. Rude refused to release any of his writings or his grades, citing privacy laws. The counseling service refused to comment. Cho — who arrived in the United States as boy from South Korea in 1992 and was raised in suburban Washington, D.C., where his parents worked at a dry cleaners — left a note in his dorm room that was found after the bloodbath. A government official, who spoke of condition of anonymity because he had not been authorized to discuss details of the case, said the note had been described to him as "anti-woman, anti-rich kid." The Chicago Tribune reported on its Web site that the note railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus. ABC, citing law enforcement sources, said that the note, several pages long, explains Cho's actions and says, "You caused me to do this."

Citing unidentified sources, the Tribune also said Cho had recently set a fire in a dorm room and had stalked some women. Monday's rampage consisted of two attacks, more than two hours apart — first at a dormitory, where two people were killed, then inside a classroom building, where 31 people, including Cho, died. Two handguns — a 9 mm and a .22-caliber — were found in the classroom building. The Washington Post quoted law enforcement sources as saying Cho died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on one of his arms, but they were not sure what that meant. According to court papers, police found a "bomb threat" note — directed at engineering school buildings — near the victims in the classroom building. In the past three weeks, Virginia Tech was hit with two other bomb threats. Investigators have not publicly connected those threats to Cho.

Cho graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., in 2003. His family lived in an off-white, two-story townhouse in Centreville, Va. Two of those killed in the rampage, Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson, graduated from Westfield High in 2006. But there was no immediate word from authorities on whether Cho knew the two young women and singled them out. "He was very quiet, always by himself," neighbor Abdul Shash said. Shash said Cho spent a lot of his free time playing basketball and would not respond if someone greeted him. Classmates painted a similar picture. Some said that on the first day of a British literature class last year, the 30 or so students went around and introduced themselves. When it was Cho's turn, he didn't speak. On the sign-in sheet where everyone else had written their names, Cho had written a question mark. "Is your name, `Question mark?'" classmate Julie Poole recalled the professor asking. The young man offered little response. Cho spent much of that class sitting in the back of the room, wearing a hat and seldom participating. In a small department, Cho distinguished himself for being anonymous. "He didn't reach out to anyone. He never talked," Poole said.

"We just really knew him as the question mark kid," Poole said. One law enforcement official said Cho's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. Cho held a green card, meaning he was a legal, permanent resident. That meant he was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of a felony. Roanoke Firearms owner John Markell said his shop sold the Glock and a box of practice ammo to Cho 36 days ago for $571. "He was a nice, clean-cut college kid. We won't sell a gun if we have any idea at all that a purchase is suspicious," Markell said. Investigators stopped short of saying Cho carried out both attacks. But State Police ballistics tests showed one gun was used in both. And two law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the information had not been announced, said Cho's fingerprints were on both guns, whose serial numbers had been filed off. With classes canceled for the rest of the week, many students left town in a hurry, lugging pillows, sleeping bags and backpacks down the sidewalks.

Jessie Ferguson, 19, a freshman from Arlington, headed for her car with tears streaming down her cheeks. "I'm still kind of shaky," she said. "I had to pump myself up just to kind of come out of the building. I was going to come out, but it took a little bit of 'OK, it's going to be all right. There's lots of cops around.'" She added: "I just don't want to be on campus." On Tuesday afternoon, thousands of people gathered in the basketball arena for a memorial service for the victims, with an overflow crowd of thousands watching on a jumbo TV screen in the football stadium. President Bush and the first lady attended. "As you draw closer to your families in the coming days, I ask you to reach out to those who ache for sons and daughters who are never coming home," Bush said. Virginia Tech President Charles Steger received a 30-second standing ovation, despite bitter complaints from parents and students that the university should have locked down the campus immediately after the first burst of gunfire.

Stories of heroism and ingenuity emerged Tuesday. Liviu Librescu, an Israeli engineering and math lecturer, was killed after he was said to have protected his students' lives by blocking the doorway of his classroom from the gunman. And one student, an Eagle Scout, survived after using an electrical cord as a tourniquet around his bleeding thigh, a doctor reported. Kevin and Cindy Deck of Roanoke met at Virginia Tech and graduated from the school. Their daughter Natalie is a fourth-year architecture student, while son Daniel is a freshman business major. "We both went to work this morning," Cindy Deck said. "I teach school, and by the first bell ringing, I thought, I can't do this. I need to be with my kids. It's just one of those days you've got to be with them." Her husband added: "We've been struggling with an immediate impulse just to run and grab our kids and bring them home."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: boyscout; boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; eaglescout; firstaid; scouts; virginiatech
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To: Ingtar
Ismail Ax on the left arm (closest to the heart) of the killer tells me all I need to know about his motives.

All it tells me is that the killer was right-handed.

41 posted on 04/17/2007 2:50:19 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Free Stan Shunpike!)
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To: Coleus

after reading the first play on thesmokinggun.com, I can’t imagine reading the one about the students. Whacked. He was completely and utterly whacked and the parents of the students have a right to be angry at the school on a variety of issues including not being more responsible about handling these sort of students. Where were the school couselors that this kid was sent to?


42 posted on 04/17/2007 2:50:22 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Bahbah
"I read a piece of his "creative" writing over at the Smoking Gun. In addition to being violent and disgusting, he had no business in a college English class..."

Kind of like Jim Webb's writing.

43 posted on 04/17/2007 2:51:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: wideawake
It’s interesting that he had a hatred of Catholics in addition to his other pathologies

The Enemy knows the correct address.

44 posted on 04/17/2007 2:51:47 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Charles Henrickson; mikrofon
So it's possible that the writing on the guy's arm said
ISMAIL AK
and the K was written in a way that people *thought* it said
ISMAIL AX
That seems more likely to me than a connection to Moby Dick or to Islamic terrorism.

ISMAIL AX = ALIAS MIX!

45 posted on 04/17/2007 2:51:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (I x SALAMI)
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To: Callahan

I was totally not thinking Islam, until I heard of the word Ismail. Sorry, but it is logical to think there could be a connection when you see that, especially without knowing what the other poster posted about a Dr. specializing in anti-social behavior etc with an almost idential name.
Of course, there are also those who immediately assume it’s never terrorism....
susie


46 posted on 04/17/2007 2:52:49 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Callahan
"It’s funny how some people are so invested in having this perp fit their pre-conceived notions. Many Freepers seem desperate for an Islamic terrorism connection, while over at DU they were praying the guy would be a disgruntled vet who got denied treatment at Walter Reed. I guess “typical psycho” doesn’t satisfy."

I heard he had mud on his shoes from sneaking across the Rio Grande.

47 posted on 04/17/2007 2:53:19 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: wideawake

i think this was the child molester anger as he also references Michael Jackson. I initially chewed on this too until i saw the comments about jackson.


48 posted on 04/17/2007 2:54:33 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Bahbah
i just wandered over to TSG and read his "play" and wow.
what the hell is that garbage?
i would be interested to know what kind of grade he got for that dreck
49 posted on 04/17/2007 2:55:22 PM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: Coleus

It pays to be a Scout!


50 posted on 04/17/2007 2:56:10 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: Alberta's Child
Signing in with a question mark, bizarre non-participation and psyco plays in response to an assignment. Still he makes it to a month from graduation. Why not have such a student gone in his second semester for lack of adjustment?

On the other hand, I know a family just like his in our neighborhood. Older sister graduates with honors, asian family, own a cleaning business and a credit to the American dream. They love America and express their pride in their adopted nation in modest forms frequently.

51 posted on 04/17/2007 2:57:42 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: B-Chan

Can’t disagree with that.


52 posted on 04/17/2007 2:57:44 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet
Judging him by his writings reminds me of Senator Webb of Virginia. His writings appears worse from the snippets I have seen of the gunman’s. Red flags with Webb also, but he was elected to the Senate.
53 posted on 04/17/2007 2:58:00 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Callahan

Must have been so. He had them cornered and surprised. Still... remarkable quantity. If only some students or professors or security people were armed. These days, especially in New York, if we go armed, we’re considered potential terrorists. So, we’re either victims or villians.


54 posted on 04/17/2007 2:58:14 PM PDT by scheuber (Life happens because it can, not because it's supposed to.)
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To: Ingtar

After on again off again stranged and strained relationship with a very forward Jewish girl, he falls back on Islamic influences from Centerville and of course, the University. After lashing out at girl and killing RA in wrong place at wrong time, moves on to “axe the idols” .....


55 posted on 04/17/2007 2:58:38 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: madprof98
The kid was a nutcase, but even now, the PC "protect his privacy" stuff trumps the public's right to know. About 15 years back, I had a guy in class who was similarly frightening. After I learned that he had threatened to butcher some female students while I was out of the room, I went to the dean of students and demanded action. To keep him out of my classroom, I was required to offer him an independent study course on my own time. I did it, of course, and he stayed in school until months later when he brought a gun into the classroom building and began threatening classmates with it. Frankly, I was amazed he was not allowed to kill someone before he was put out of school. The school was blessed to have you and so were the students.
56 posted on 04/17/2007 3:00:10 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: wideawake

He also hated McDonalds or what it stood for in his head. McDonalds = USA?


57 posted on 04/17/2007 3:00:49 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: wideawake

I might add that there is a good chance he was raised RC, as many Koreans are of that faith. Classic college rebellion - go up against one’s familial faith.


58 posted on 04/17/2007 3:02:27 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Coleus
"... He said he and other students "were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."

"We always joked we were just waiting for him to do something, waiting to hear about something he did," said another classmate, Stephanie Derry. "But when I got the call it was Cho who had done this, I started crying, bawling..."

Minister: "He was a loner, and a quiet young man. He attended church, and Sunday School. I remember he was always very polite."

Ted Koppel: "Do you believe he killed Buckwheat?"

Minister: "Oh, yes. Definitely. That’s all he talked about."

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/82/82pstutts.phtml

59 posted on 04/17/2007 3:03:26 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: TexasCajun

” Rosie’s “Blame Bush” rant from her show Rosie’s View on his radio program today.”

Making George Bush responsible for every person in this country is surreal and depraved.

She needs to seek counseling immediately.


60 posted on 04/17/2007 3:04:17 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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