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1 posted on 04/17/2007 10:57:29 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Freeman Dyson is almost universally agreed to be one of the smartest people on our planet.


2 posted on 04/17/2007 11:01:42 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: Names Ash Housewares
He thinks with a better understanding of the use of CO2 by vegetation we could control atmospheric CO2 levels without drastic changes to our energy production and use.

HERETIC

The Great and Mighty Gore will not be pleased.

6 posted on 04/17/2007 11:10:47 AM PDT by A message (Liberalism does not breed survivors)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Wow. Cool. Not so much the Global warming stuff, but the site itself.


8 posted on 04/17/2007 11:16:27 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

ping


9 posted on 04/17/2007 11:17:25 AM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

ref. ping


10 posted on 04/17/2007 11:18:00 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Names Ash Housewares
When asked about Gore, Dyson replied: "I expect him to be in the absolute elsewhere."






Ok, actually, when Dyson was six years old he said this about his nanny. For some reason I always remember this detail about Dyson.
13 posted on 04/17/2007 11:21:07 AM PDT by macamadamia
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F. Dyson said this? He is probably one of the smartest humans on the planet. Maybe some folks will listen.

I happen to be a rare believer, in general and in theory, with global warming, here on FR. That said, I am not a Global Warming (tm) alarmist. Dyson DOES believe in the dangers of CO2, but believes that the primary one isn't of warming, but of stratospeheric cooling, which hurts the ozone layer, which, when it opens holes over the ARCTIC, vs the Anarctic, where nobody lives anyways, is going to be a big problem. He also believes that by managing vegetation, we will be able, relatively simply, to manage CO2 levels.

14 posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:07 AM PDT by Paradox (Secular Conservative, thank God!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

There can be no debate as illustrated by the site listed below:

http://www.climatescience.org.nz/

DISCONTINUANCE OF PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
While we appreciate the additions to debate by the small but devoted band who have been using the discussion facility provided on this website for generally interesting and researched exchanges of views, we regret that due to the clogging of these discussion sections with incomprehensible gibberish by some anonymous but obviously demented devotee of ex-Senator Gore, we are closing the facility forthwith. Those of you who may feel inconvenienced by this action by our volunteer webmaster will know just who to blame.


15 posted on 04/17/2007 11:27:37 AM PDT by griswold3
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Dyson has been right at the top of theoretical physics. He has had time to reflect on the limits of scientific knowledge.


16 posted on 04/17/2007 11:29:38 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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CO2 ping!


18 posted on 04/17/2007 11:32:20 AM PDT by SuziQ
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I am finding this a good read, not just the GW part:

I happen to be a moderately religious person; I mean I'm not in any sense a theologian or somebody who really knows a lot about religion, but I go to church and I have a feeling that it's a great thing that churches and synagogues and mosques exist in the world. They are communities of the kind that make people better on the whole, and certainly in Princeton we have about 25 churches and they're full every Sunday, in addition to a couple of synagogues and I don't know if there's a mosque on the highway not far away.

In any case, this is an important part of our lives and I'm very happy to be a part of it. My grandsons goes to the little Sunday school at the church where we go and so they're learning Bible stories and I think it's good that people learn these stories when they're young so they have some feeling for the culture even if they don't believe the religion. Christianity is very much a part of our culture and at least they should know what the bible is about. So I'm happy to belong to that, and the church also plays an important social role in this community. It's about the only institution that really ties the community together and takes care of aged and sick and poor people, so I'm all in favour of religion as an institution.

And at the same time, I find it doesn't make any conflict with my science; that religion to me is really not about belief, it's about belonging, it's about a way of life, and so I don't find the slightest difficulty in being a religious person in this sense and being a scientist. And that's maybe a slightly unusual combination. I mean, most of my friends either tend to be total agnostics who have no interest in religion at all, or else are worried about conflicts between science and religion. The more religious people that I know mostly have difficulties in harmonising science and religion. I find my situation is rather unusual, so I like to explain this. I suppose that's the main reason that I go to meetings, to try to point out to people that you can be both; that the conflicts are in a way very artificial and the conflicts only arise if you try to make religion into a science or if you try to make science into a religion, both of which are very unsatisfying.

Both mistakes, of course, are frequently made. The fundamentalists try to make religion into a science, and a lot of the more extreme what you might call science worshippers, in which I include Einstein, Einstein was one of the worst of those, he made science into a religion and he said quite explicitly that for him science was a religion, there was something sacred about it, and that I think is a cause of a great deal of difficulty, and caused him to take a very narrow view of science.

19 posted on 04/17/2007 11:33:09 AM PDT by Paradox (Secular Conservative, thank God!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; OKSooner; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

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ping list while xcamel is on vacation.



20 posted on 04/17/2007 11:36:45 AM PDT by honolulugal
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Ping: Worth watching.

Different reasons, same conclusion.


26 posted on 04/17/2007 12:06:08 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (I don't care what side of the debate you are on: Weather is not Climate)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Bookmark


27 posted on 04/17/2007 12:13:01 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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What a mind-boggling site!

You made my day. Thank you.

33 posted on 04/17/2007 1:51:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Anothe rscientists departs from the “consensus” and debunks the global warming myth.


36 posted on 04/17/2007 2:04:36 PM PDT by TBP
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Too many excellent scientists, especially those in the climate field, are coming together. I guess you’d have to call it a consensus:

human-induced global warming is bunk.


47 posted on 04/24/2007 8:16:57 AM PDT by TBP
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To: aflaak

ping


48 posted on 06/03/2007 11:21:00 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Jack Bauer would just whack him!)
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To: aflaak

ping


49 posted on 06/03/2007 1:19:39 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Jack Bauer would just whack him!)
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