Posted on 04/17/2007 10:57:28 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Transcripts are clickable on the site too if you dont want to watch. You can read instead.
Three interesting clips. This guy is not caught up in the hype over atmospheric CO2.
He slams computer models pretty hard.
Three short vids. First one should start right away. Select the last two on the dropdown menu on the left.
http://www.peoplesarchive.com/browse/movies/1248/en/
144. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere: the balance between vegetation and atmosphere [Duration 00:06:33]
145. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere: global warming and stratospheric cooling [Duration 00:01:27]
146. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere: conclusions [Duration 00:02:42]
Thanks for posting this quote.
“...Did you miss the part about stratospheric cooling and its potential affect on ozone in the artic?...”
No, but I really think you alarmists need to make up your “minds”. Is CO2 a “greenhouse gas” which causes “warming”? Or a “non-greenhouse gas” which causes “cooling”? Which is it?
While I’m waiting for your answer [...drumming of fingers...], consider this:
Some “scientists” SAY CO2
Is “confused” about WHAT it should do:
Warm UP the troposphere?
Cool DOWN the stratosphere?
Clearly, THAT theory’s untrue.
From your tone, I conclude that European true-believers have created a large POLITICAL crisis for themselves (and their more rational brethren) fueled by junk science, scapegoating, envy and superstition. I gather you personally think it’s too late (at least in Europe) to try to bring the discussion back to REAL science, which, after all, values “scepticism” more highly than “consensus”.
Stephen of Cloyes eventually learned that wildly-enthusiastic naivete does not “conquer all”. It’s too bad that today’s poorly-educated Europeans will have to learn that lesson all over again.
I know your comments are meant for others and not for me. You feel the need to reassure your “readers” of their pre-conceived notions and no need to think more carefully about the real issues of CO2. So, rather than continuing our very intersting disussion you feel the need to interject some silly talking points and weakly reasoned dismissals.
That is fine.
I don’t have all the answers, but can clearly see that CO2 is an issue. Anyone willing to open their eyes realizes the same.
It is funny that from one side of your (and others) mouth you will say “hey this scientist doesn’t think CO2 is a problem for global warming and that proves we are right”. But you will compeltely ignore the fact that he think CO2 causes a different equally global problem and therefore advocates some reasonable action to reduce human emissions.
The clear reality is that CO2 causes a problem or problems. My solution is to use market mechanisms to step by careful step reduce these emissions. It will be easy, cheap and probably overall good for American security, power and perhaps even the economy.
The left wants to use it as an excuse to redistribute wealth. The longer the right delays, the more strength the left will gain, not for solutions to the problem, but to promote their leftist agenda.
Thge right is sowing the seeds of its own destruction on this issue. It is not about morality and of late it no longer seems to be about science. It is just about money for oil and coal and ideology i.e. stubborness in to needing to admit being wrong.
Nevertheless, I continue to enjoy our exchanges.
Since I have a long business lunch and a squash match in my schedule today, I will be “too busy” to answer your comments in detail until tomorrow.
OTOH, since you “know” what I’m thinking — why don’t you just respond to what you “know” I would have said?
LOL - that gave me a chuckle.
Too many excellent scientists, especially those in the climate field, are coming together. I guess you’d have to call it a consensus:
human-induced global warming is bunk.
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DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING !
NO more calls, please. We have a winner!
...BTW, what does Esther have to say about global warming? Or for that matter, Murray Gell-Mann?
Cheers!
The threads usually ended up like this...
Cheers!
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