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Virginia Tech Students Doomed by Gun Ban [a 'must read']
Hog On Ice ^ | April 16, 2007 | Steve H. Graham

Posted on 04/16/2007 3:28:50 PM PDT by jdm

Edited on 04/16/2007 6:49:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I just found out about the massacre at Virginia Tech.

The thing that makes me most angry is that the dead students were penned up like sheep for the slaughter, in a ridiculous "gun-free zone." A better phrase would be "self-defense-free zone," or maybe "danger-free zone for armed criminals."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunban; jabaz; mohammed; mohammedjabaz; students; virginiatech; vt
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To: george76

You’ve got some good photos! :O)


41 posted on 04/16/2007 3:52:42 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Dilbert San Diego
“I swear the news has been totally silent on that.”

Ahhh, just your imagination.

42 posted on 04/16/2007 3:52:50 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: RC2
I’m not sure that I would want 4000 teenage students running around armed.

This is a straw man argument. Not many of us here are suggesting that there should be 4000 teenage students running around armed. The suggestion is that if some people were allowed to have concealed carry, then (1) it is possible that at least part of this tragedy could have been averted due to the intervention by an armed civilian or (2) the possibility of armed civilians on campus might have been a deterrent in the first place.

43 posted on 04/16/2007 3:53:37 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: jdm

It is pointless to discuss this problem without knowing the perpetrator’s motivation. This seems to be of no interest to the MSM including Drudge.

“Asian” and “looking for girlfriend” are covering up a serious story needing discussion.


44 posted on 04/16/2007 3:53:44 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: jdm

We live in a time when we must have access to firearms. All except Muslims.


45 posted on 04/16/2007 3:53:49 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: jdm
Like usual, the people that obeyed the Gun Laws are the ones that paid the ultimate price.
46 posted on 04/16/2007 3:54:27 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: RC2
"I’m not sure that I would want 4000 teenage students running around armed. I think that in todays world, things could go real bad, real fast."

How do you feel about 18 year-olds making a choice to enlist in the military? If their old enough to go protect your life and liberties, don't you think their old enough to protect their own?

47 posted on 04/16/2007 3:54:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: jdm

From “96 Minutes” Texas Monthly article about the Charles Whitman shootings:

“IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY OTHER GUY HAD A RIFLE.”
Students waited and waited for the police to arrive. The shootings would spur the creation of SWAT teams across the country, but at that time, the Austin Police Department had no tactical unit to deploy. Its officers had only service revolvers and shotguns, which were useless against a sniper whose perch was hundreds of yards away. Communication with headquarters was difficult, with few handheld radios, and the phone system was jammed across the city. Some officers went home to get their rifles; others directed traffic away from campus. In the absence of any visible police presence, students decided to defend themselves.

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CLIF DRUMMOND was a senior and the student body president. He is a high-tech executive in Austin.
Students with deer rifles were leaning up against telephone poles, using the pole, which is rather narrow, as their shield. And they were firing like crazy back at the Tower.

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BILL HELMER: I remember thinking, “All we need is a bunch of idiots running around with rifles.” But what they did turned out to be brilliant. Once he could no longer lean over the edge and fire, he was much more limited in what he could do. He had to shoot through those drain spouts, or he had to pop up real fast and then dive down again. That’s why he did most of his damage in the first twenty minutes.”


48 posted on 04/16/2007 3:55:16 PM PDT by Theophane
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To: jdm
Government guns respond to shootings; privately owned guns prevent them.

This one goes into the queue named "shamelessly stolen taglines"

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49 posted on 04/16/2007 3:55:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Argus
“Advertising that your school is a “gun free zone””

I wonder if Virginia Tech President Charles Steger, is willing to subject HIS family to the same stupidity as he subjected those on campus by putting a sign up on HIS front lawn, “Gun Free Zone”?

50 posted on 04/16/2007 3:55:53 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: jdm

From Planet Blacksburg:

“1:48pm: Derek O’dell, a sophomore biology major was in a classroom on the second floor of Norris Hall when the shooter came in and began to shoot. He let off a full round before leaving. O’dell was one of 10-15 people shot in the class, and was hit in his upper arm. According to O’dell, the shooter was an Asian male in his twenties wearing a maroon hat and a black coat.”

http://www.planetblacksburg.com/2007/04/shootings_on_campus_result_in_death_and_injury.php


51 posted on 04/16/2007 3:55:59 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: jdm

Nice one.


52 posted on 04/16/2007 3:56:05 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Great question Joe.


53 posted on 04/16/2007 3:56:16 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: rocksblues

Thank you. That’s how I see it.


54 posted on 04/16/2007 3:56:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


55 posted on 04/16/2007 3:57:59 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: shrinkermd
It is pointless to discuss this problem without knowing the perpetrator’s motivation.

You're not a psychiatrist, are you? :O)

56 posted on 04/16/2007 3:58:29 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818351/posts


57 posted on 04/16/2007 3:58:39 PM PDT by upchuck (A living, breathing example of the Peter Principle. Oh, forgetful, too :)
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To: eleni121

LOL


58 posted on 04/16/2007 3:59:06 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

8-)


59 posted on 04/16/2007 3:59:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Argus

YEP....EVERYTIME I walked into my grandson’s gradeschool and saw the “GUN FREE ZONE” sign I would get a sick feeling in my stomach.....and in the primary classes - there were NO doors - they all opened onto a common area.....if this ends up in court, maybe finally, at least the TEACHER’S will be required to be armed, like Israel. That could cull out some of those idiot teachers, too....if they cannot get a CCW.....they shouldn’t be teaching our kids, either.


60 posted on 04/16/2007 3:59:49 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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