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VA Tech official praised defeat of student self-defense proposal in 2006
One News Now ^ | 04.16.07 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 04/16/2007 1:20:58 PM PDT by Coleus

A Virginia Tech official in 2006 praised the defeat of a proposal to allow students with state-issued concealed handgun permits to carry their handguns on college campuses in Virginia. At least 20 unarmed students were killed on the VA Tech campus Monday morning by a single gunman. Virginia House Bill 1572 was proposed in 2005 by Shenandoah County, Va., Republican Del. Todd Gilbert after a VA Tech student with a state-issued concealed handgun permit was arrested and charged only with "unlawfully" carrying a handgun on campus. The bill would have prohibited state universities in Virginia from enacting "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

After the proposal died in the state's House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety, The Roanoke Times quoted VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker as celebrating the defeat of the bill. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions," Hincker said on Jan. 31, 2006, "because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Following Monday's multiple-victim shooting at VA Tech, Erich Pratt with Virginia-based Gun Owners of America called that philosophy "idiocy." "I think gun control advocates will say, 'See, we need more gun control,' even though this is exactly the product of gun control," Pratt said.

Currently, only Utah has a statute specifically authorizing law-abiding individuals with concealed handgun permits to possess their firearms on state university property. Most other states have explicit or implied prohibitions. "Every school campus [other than those in Utah] in this nation is a 'gun free zone,' supposedly," Pratt bemoaned. "But, isn't it amazing that criminals, bad guys never obey those laws."

Regarding Utah, Pratt adds, "Isn't it interesting that that's the one state where we haven't heard of any school shootings." At least two school shootings have been stopped by armed civilians before police arrived:

· January 9, 2002, Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, Va. - 43 year old Peter Odighizuwa, who had flunked out of the small law school earlier in the week killed three people and wounded three others. Two law students - Tracy Bridges and Ted Besen - retreived a handgun from Bridges' vehicle and held Odighizuwa at gun point for several minutes before police arrived. (Bridges was a reserve deputy sheriff, but was not on duty at the time of the incident.)

· October 1, 1997, Pearl High School, Pearl, Ms. - 16 year old Luke Woodham carried a rifle onto the school campus, killed his ex-girlfriend and one of her friends and wounded seven other people. Assisstant Principal Joel Myrick retreived a handgun from his truck and held Woodham for police. It was later learned that the teeneager had beaten and stabbed his own mother to death before the attack at the school.

Pratt is not optimistic, however, that lawmakers will allow public university students and faculty members to protect themselves from mass murderers like the one who struck VA Tech Monday. "The only schools and universities where these tragedies have been stopped abruptly were the places where law-abiding citizens had a gun that was accessible to them and they were able to stop the shooter," Pratt noted. "The schools and universities that had to wait for the police to arrive, those are the ones that find these high death tolls.

"It's just a real shame," he concluded, "that these guys never get it."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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1 posted on 04/16/2007 1:21:01 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

i am sure it has already been said, but if only ONE of those college kids had a permit to carry and had a gun, there would not have been that many fatalities....

Meadow Muffin


2 posted on 04/16/2007 1:22:31 PM PDT by rwgal
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Exercising the Right, to KEEP and BEAR Arms
armed citizen

3 posted on 04/16/2007 1:24:09 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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To: rwgal
Earlier thread with source:

Gun bill gets shot down by panel (VA Tech - On Drudge)
4 posted on 04/16/2007 1:24:15 PM PDT by BJClinton (Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons.)
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To: Coleus

Lawsuits are gonna be flying...........


5 posted on 04/16/2007 1:25:08 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: rwgal

I was thinking the same thing.....


6 posted on 04/16/2007 1:25:11 PM PDT by Kimmers (Coram Deo)
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To: Coleus

This article is so right. The liberals, of course, will continue not to “get it”. Some of them are dewy-eyed dreamers who believe you can keep guns out of criminals’ hands if you just pass enough laws. Others do understand the point, but have no desire for Americans to be able to defend ourselves. If we’re not helpless and defenseless, we’ll be less likely to turn to the govt for help. And they can tyrannize us much more easily.


7 posted on 04/16/2007 1:27:30 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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Where has the common sense gone in this country? We trust a kid with a car, a credit card a rubber (pardon me), a drink, BUT we don’t trust them to be able to defend themselves...

Meadow Muffin


8 posted on 04/16/2007 1:27:55 PM PDT by rwgal
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To: Coleus
Anti-gun libs are doing nothing but enrolling naive kids into a suicide pact.
9 posted on 04/16/2007 1:28:31 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: rwgal

Thirty-one people died in Blacksburg, VA today. The cause of death was liberalism.


10 posted on 04/16/2007 1:29:31 PM PDT by freespirited (Resentment, redistribution, and re-education. The three Rs of liberalism.)
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To: Coleus

I wonder if there is any civil recourse ..for compensation consequent to deprivation of the right to self defense here....


11 posted on 04/16/2007 1:29:32 PM PDT by mo
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When we learn from the media that this was a Islamic Fascist Terrorist? Or will we ever be told the truth?


12 posted on 04/16/2007 1:30:22 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Red Badger
Lawsuits are gonna be flying...........

I hope you're right, and I hope they're aimed at every school administrator and Virginia lawmaker who ensured that the students, faculty, and administration would be helpless and defenseless. If the murderer had thought there even might be a chance that one of his victims was armed, it could have saved lives.

13 posted on 04/16/2007 1:31:31 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Coleus

I would feel very uncomfortable sending my son to a campus that he felt the necessity to carry a concealed weapon for protection. It’s crazy. Although I believe people have the right to bear arms and protect themselves, it seems very sad that one has to “pack” on a campus!


14 posted on 04/16/2007 1:31:49 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: freespirited
Thirty-one people died in Blacksburg, VA today. The cause of death was liberalism.

The cause of death was some wacko with a couple of hand guns. Don't make it into something it isn't.

15 posted on 04/16/2007 1:32:39 PM PDT by Drennan Whyte
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To: YOUGOTIT
Unfortunately I am sure that some clown named Muhammad is watching this as he loads his magazines and re wraps his turban.

Meadow Muffin

16 posted on 04/16/2007 1:32:54 PM PDT by rwgal
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To: Coleus
"The Roanoke Times quoted VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker as celebrating the defeat of the bill. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions," Hincker said on Jan. 31, 2006, "because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

...and so yet another liberal gets people killed, but they "felt safe" up until that point.

17 posted on 04/16/2007 1:34:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Coleus

I’ve completely given up on government entirely for my family or my country’s security.


18 posted on 04/16/2007 1:34:53 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Bitsy

Because almost all campuses have large foreign student exchange programs I would feel comfortable letting my kid go unprotected. Call it racist or whatever but that’s how I feel.


19 posted on 04/16/2007 1:35:27 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: Bitsy

There are few places in the world where packing a weapon is not adviseable.

Texas got CCP after the after-church Luby’s shooting, for example.


20 posted on 04/16/2007 1:36:44 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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