Posted on 04/16/2007 1:20:58 PM PDT by Coleus
Still waiting to see whether the wacko was an Islamofascist. The second bunch of shootings occurred in an engineering building. It is well known that foreign students from Islamic countries major in engineering in disproportionate percentages.
Agreed. NO matter how idiotic this shooter is, it’s policy that made people live under a more dangerous circumstance. It’s not wrong to note that, and it’s not hijacking...it’s clarifying the truth.
Chances are one of these students could have helped save many, and that’s how it should have been.
“Gun control, or the lack thereof, had absolutely nothing to do with the situation.”
It is time to start holding officials and polititions that make innocent, honest citizens sitting ducks as much accountable as the killer. They should be charged as accessories to murder. They are just as guilty of this as if they were there and held the victims down so the killer could shoot them.
Using the power of government this is exactly what they did.
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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Radio host (Schmidt) that comes on here after Rush stated that a witness with ATF connections told ABC that the shooter was muslim. That is what he reported about 15 minutes ago.
No ID, no reports of white guy shooter, no reports of what the shooter said if anything and no reports of the shooter being recognized by any students. You can bet this was not some radical Methodist!
LLS
Dear Mean West Texan:
As I posted later on this thread, I have a hunch that the wacko shooter(s) at Virginia Tech were Islamists.
BTW, what is CCP? Concealed carry permits?
FReegards,
justiceseeker93
Conservatives have no more business hijacking a tragedy of this sort than the gun-control advocates do trying to further crack down on guns. It’s crass opportunism at its worst.]
Hijacking a tragedy? We wear seatbelts in cars. Not because we expect to be involved in a crash but just in case. We keep fire extinguishers in our house. Not because we expect the house to burn down. The government does not dare outlaw fire extinguishers or seatbelts because we have a right to proactively defend ourselves against an unlikely tragedy. Guns are different, apparently.
Now, I don’t disagree with your political opportunism sentiments. However, don’t ignore the importance of having a fire extinguisher by your bed when you wake to a raging fire in your home. Nor can you ignore the effect that having one legally armed and responsible student present at VA Tech somewhere in the mix during today’s tragedy. It is a subject worthy of debate. Properly equipped, most Americans rise to the occasion when confronted with situations like today’s. The powers to be have ensured that the opportunity for ordinary students to do something extraordinary, like saves lives, was absent. Worse, it was only recently the subject of debate on campus and in VA courts.
Again, politically charged or not, it is what it was and was not.
He came right out and said so.
“Concealed carry permits”
Correct.
Gun free zone = defenseless victims
The cause of death was some wacko with a couple of hand guns. Don’t make it into something it isn’t.
Why? It would be nice to think that a place of learning was exempt from insane nuts but that's just not reality. History has shown otherwise. There's no reason in this world to exclude any college campus from concealed carry weapons.
Their cause of death was a freak who thought it was a good idea to start executing people.
Wrong! Their cause of death was their state of defenselessness. It assured the freak that A) he would meet with zero resistance and B) could go on killing until the cops showed up.
Sure, your declaration that their cause of death was a freak with a gun sounds like level-headed common sense, but you've fooled yourself and are in danger of fooling others.
Remember: there will always be freaks -- there's nothing we can do to change that. People, including freaks, will always find a way to access weapons to inflict harm -- there's nothing we can do to change that, either.
There's only one aspect of the equation that we can change: peoples' abilities to defend themselves. If you're going to deal with reality, then you must accept that the ONLY factor that's going to make a difference is the one you CAN change. That truly is common sense.
Indeed, liberalism and gun control DID kill these victims.
As they should! Especialy if any of those who were shot had a concealed carry permit.
I thought it needed to be a little stronger.
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