Rest in peace, Professor Lebrescu, Hero.
Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
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I can’t answer your other questions, but the campus police chief, at least I think that’s his title, said at the press conference last night that the police DID NOT think the first shooting was a murder suicide. What he did say is that they had identified a “person of interest” in that shooting, and were in fact interviewing this person at the time of the second shooting. The police chief was dancing very delicately around this whole issue, but it sounded to me like they thought they had their guy in the first shooting, but now it looks like they had the wrong guy. That’s not a criticism of the police. It just sounds to me like the most likely explanation.
It's possible; maybe even probable. But then again, the people who are most likely to shoot someone in these situations probably already own an illegal handgun.
I'm very concerned about a Beslan situation here in the U.S., and the only effective way to prevent it or to minimize the casualties is by allowing adults to carry.
Rest in peace, Professor Lebrescu, Hero.
The kids at that school are more adult and have their acts together then Shep and Geraldo do
I’ll wait for answers. RAMPANT SPECULATION: but how much preparation does it really take to have a bike chain lock, or think that it might be a good way to keep your girlfriend from running out the front door while you search for her?
Is it that hard to imagine a man who has decided to kill his girlfriend, who has already killed a couple of innocent bystanders because he was so mad (the RA and the roommate), would decide it was easier just to shoot people in the classrooms who weren’t helping him find his girlfriend?
If the reports are to be believed, he lined up kids in one classroom — maybe that was the first. When they wouldn’t say where his girl was, he shot them. Then maybe when he went to the next class, he figured it was just easier to walk in and shoot everybody rather than taking the time to line them up.
Sure, it COULD have been pre-meditated, but I don’t think it is unbelievable that he was just a nut who wanted to get his ex-girlfriend.
I am very uncomfortable with all of this second-guessing so early. The press should be attempting only to gather facts at this stage, rather than placing blame on the police or VT officials. From what I hear there is not even confirmation that the first and second shootings were by the same person. We don’t know exactly WHAT was done as far as notice to the students is concerned.
Arguably any mass email would also have been sent to the shooter(s), who would have known that the school knew about the first shooting. I can’t see how the message could have gotten out earlier than around 8:30, when classes were under way. Assuming students would have gotten email in the middle of class, they would have hunkered down in their classrooms, not know whether the shooter was already in their building. The possibilities are nearly endless when all of the facts are not in.
We should hold our fire for now, so to speak. Seems we have learned little from the Duke Lacrosse case, and we are ready to judge the police and V.Tech while the bodies are still warm.
Your post is right on.
Pure wild-eyed speculation, mind you, trying to make 'sense' of something that quite possibly no sense can be made of.
But I must note that the prof did seem from his resumee to be doing work which could have tremendous defence applications, now and in the forseeable future, for the US and possibly Israel as well.
I was also impressed with Derek. He said his mother is a counselor with VA. Her competence is apparrent in her son.
What is really starting to make me mad, is how, 24 hours after the event, the name of the shooter hasn’t been released as yet. if we really don’t know who he is, haven’t been able to identify him with the complete and total resources of all US law enforcement and security agencies working on it...then we might as well surrender to OBL now and bring the troops home..
I remember vividly when the Lincoln (I think, at least it was the ship that had displayed the “mission accomplished” sign so widely criticizedO) finally returned after a record long deployment, the families were anxiously waiting on the dock for the men and women to come off and reunite with them.
Greg Kelly asks a man waiting for his son with his extended family watching and listening, “Did you ever think that your son wouldn’t return?”
The man looked at him like the loser that he is. Kelly is lucky that that is all the man did.
That’s true...and that also brings up a key point as to how these young men and women will be affected. It’s not, IMHO, comparable to Columbine. They were younger, and kids, even teens have an amazing resiliency and ability to grow out of it..but for the VT students who got out..the problem will be “survivor’s guilt”...
SPECULATION ALERT: If the one story is to be believed, he was looking for his ex-girlfriend, and knew what floor her class was but not which class. That would equally explain his hitting the 2nd floor, and would further explain his shooting multiple classrooms, as he didn’t find her in the first room.
If that story is true, I presume we will eventually have the girl’s story. In another scenario, the girlfriend was shot in the dorm, so in that case you need a different explanation.
We need to wait for more and more accurate facts before we jump to conclusions of some conspiratorial hit job.
I don’t think it’s unbelievable that a guy could kill that many people without specialized training. Modern video games could well train a guy to be “good enough” to kill dozens of people who are stuck in classrooms and waiting to be shot.
I keep seeing on the news that the killer’s face was disfigured because he shot himself in the head. Did he shoot himself in the back of the head or something?
Gunman Who Killed 32 Lived in Va. Tech Dormitory (Korean From Fairfax County, NOT Chinese)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818642/posts
Wow, that says alot.
Scarborough? How sad is that?
It’s getting crazy out there.
1) Its suggested that we have mass-murderer on the loose sirens placed on US campuses.
2) Politicians screeching for “Assault Weapons Ban” when no “assault weapon” was involved.
3) We have suggestions that it was the Chinese trying to kill a professor and to do so the only way was for them to perpetrate a massacre.
4) It’s suggested that we “lock down” US campuses as if they were elementary schools. Its been suggested that we put fences up around colleges as if that would have made any difference without searching everyone who entered.
5) We have DU’ers suggesting that it was an effort to stop Gonzalez from testifying yesterday.
6) We have suggestions that anytime there is a murder, that police immediately secure every location within miles and prevent all movement in “the zone”.
7) We have people trotting out “bad video games” even when there is, as of yet, zero evidence that the shooter even played any.
And there are more. This country has become the worst example of knee-jerk reactions ever.
I agree ken. I almost wonder that if this is political given the fact that the shooter is likely from another country, here on a visa of some sort. Trying to be PC or something? Surely, they know by now who this was. They were releasing names of the terrorists within hours of 9/11.
Is there any good reason for witholding his name at this point, unless he's a terrorist?
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