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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: the OlLine Rebel
The Rodney King riots were also in April.
1,621 posted on 04/16/2007 12:43:20 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Txsleuth

FNC is reporting the GW Univ. sent out emails to be on alert

What is that about??


1,622 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:22 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“You just admitted some of your government places are no-weapons zones.”

Government places with strictly controlled entrance points, and metal detectors.


1,623 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:27 PM PDT by ex-NFO
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To: the OlLine Rebel
The way kids are today (and their behavior proves them still “kids”, not adults), perhaps we should move (the voting age) BACK to 21. (Let’s recall it WAS higher, please - funny, in days when men behaved like men at the age of 15.)

Maybe you should stop getting your impression of 19-year-olds from the mainstream media.

I know plenty who are responsible, mature adults. I'm sure there are also plenty who aren't, but there's no shortage of irresponsible 40-year-olds, but no lover of freedom would suggest that we start taking away their rights.

We need fewer restrictions on liberty, not more.

1,624 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:28 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
but involved students tackling the shooter, not shooting him

I think that was a "misreport" from several of the news articles, but that in fact one of the students who tackled the shooter had a weapon trained on him when they tackled him. I'll have to find my "gun ping" information for that one.

1,625 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Starter
There is some truth to what he says. These types of games DO desensitize people. It breaks down barriers of behavior that really should not be broached.
1,626 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:31 PM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: applpie

Uninformed?

I’m not even 40.

I was in college just 15 years ago and I had the same opinion then. I was that age, you know.

Now, we commonly have RIOTS where people get killed and people’s property and livelihoods are ruined because these spoiled brats are upset their team lost.

And it’s not just “certain kinds” of college towns, either.

Of course this is all hyperbole, but it is CLEAR to me, and I lived through it (as did my brother 10 years older), that “selfish hedonist” is a good description of far too many college students now. Their % of the college population is great enough to cause problems if things get crazy - which they frequently do.


1,627 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:38 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: BurbankKarl

No one noticed the RA & the girlfriend was dead for over 2 hours?


1,628 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:38 PM PDT by meg88
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To: Palladin
...an Asian male...

Where'd you hear that?

1,629 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:44 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Palladin

The June 2006 bomb-maker was a student, apparently asian.


1,630 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:45 PM PDT by Julliardsux
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To: JustPiper
student Jason Piatt told CNN. “But I’m pretty outraged and I’ll say on the record I’m pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 o’clock in the morning and the first e-mail about it — no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes — they just mention that they’re investigating a shooting two hours later at 9:22.”

Uh-oh ... I have a feeling this is not going to be a "clean grief" aftermath ... controversy, politicization, and lawsuits will abound.

For now, though, God bless the hurting families ... and the injured.

1,631 posted on 04/16/2007 12:44:45 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: pgkdan

I too believe that this incident may have been a planned event. The shooter certainly was familiar with the campus. Whether he was a student, a staff member or an outsider is open to question. A large campus like VMI is wide open for anyone to enter. It is still hard to believe the entire campus was not shut down after the first shooting incident. I also hope other university campuses around the country improve their own security. I recently visited Stanford Univ. and all facilities were wide open to visitors.


1,632 posted on 04/16/2007 12:45:17 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: jdm
If the shooter really did kill himself then I’m inclined to agree. An Islamic terrorist would want to be killed (to be a martyr and all that crap) Hard to believe that hours later no ID on the shooter.

This story is circulating around the globe, and still no shooter ID.

I personally find that odd. If he was a student, surly his name would have been leaked, or reported by now.

It would seem if the shooter had any connection to the campus, a girl friend at the campus etc, someone would have ID'd him by now.

1,633 posted on 04/16/2007 12:45:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: AppyPappy

I know. I also know looking at regional ethnic features doesn’t tell you much else about the person except where his ancestors came from, nothing about what he believed...


1,634 posted on 04/16/2007 12:45:49 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Mo1

If you don’t mind, I’m headed that way shortly. Could I impose on you to post anything you hear in this regard?

Many thanks.


1,635 posted on 04/16/2007 12:46:32 PM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Not to parse but Valu Jet was May 11, 1996.


1,636 posted on 04/16/2007 12:46:50 PM PDT by cmsgop ( "cmsgop" a Mark Goodson / Bill Todman Production)
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To: Julliardsux

The fact that law enforcement would be silent isn’t shocking ... that would be expected ...

it’s that the media hasn’t gotten any wiff of anything from any of the students that knew/knows the girlfriend. Law enforcement couldn’t keep these kids under lock and key ... and we know the media is getting alot of talk from students.

That’s the source I’d expect, the friends or classmates of the girl in question.


1,637 posted on 04/16/2007 12:46:51 PM PDT by Mac94
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To: AppyPappy

I started to follow this from noon on and found, gulp, MSNBC had the best coverage. Fox was so out of it that it was pathetic.

One fact came to the fore for me immediately. The wind is atrocious here and I am north of you. They mentioned no choppers in or out meaning that some could not be evacuated to major trauma centers (as in Charlottesville). Also, even the big brass coming to assist had to drive in instead of fly.

In your gut, do those on scene think this lack of aerial movement was kind of a “force multiplier?” Also, why did this “beast” chain the doors in the one building; that sounds pre-meditated to me.

Frank


1,638 posted on 04/16/2007 12:47:21 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"...perhaps we should move it BACK to 21."

Good luck with that.

The Democrats would like it lowered to age 16...even 12.

1,639 posted on 04/16/2007 12:47:45 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Hatteras

I work at Tech and the story I’ve heard is that the boyfriend himself spent the night with the girlfriend and that they got in an argument in the morning. When others in the dorm came to her “rescue” he pulled a gun and killed the girlfriend. The RA then came to help and was shot in the foot. No idea whether this is true, but it’s what I heard.


1,640 posted on 04/16/2007 12:48:25 PM PDT by gracesdad
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