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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

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To: Velveeta

This can happen anywhere- in the mall, at the ballgame, in the subway, at the town fair, etc....


1,321 posted on 04/16/2007 11:37:11 AM PDT by Nascar Dad (President Barack HUSSEIN Obama?? Possible only if McLame goes 3rd party.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I am sick and tired of this NAMBY PAMBY BULLSHIT! Our society is insane. Predators are everywhere, and the response of our duly elected masters is to continue to disarm those who are most at risk. We need to rub this tragedy in the faces of the college leadership, and the Virginia General Assembly, who had the chance to fix this inequity last year (HB 1572), but chose the "feel good" way out. Now over 30 people may have paid for their decision with their lives.

BTW. I am still waiting to hear the status of my best friend's daughter who is a sophomore engineering student at Virginia Tech. Thank you.

1,322 posted on 04/16/2007 11:37:25 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Aquinasfan; All

I am ending my participation in any discussion about guns on campus. I’d rather focus on the fact that there are at least 32 people dead and my prayers for them.


1,323 posted on 04/16/2007 11:37:31 AM PDT by ilovew (Almost a college graduate!!!)
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To: dfwgator
I’m not suggesting a bunker-type mentality, but at least being a little more aware, and having campus security keeping a closer eye on things, and at least realize that the threat is there.

A bunker-type mentality, however, is the only thing that would realistically be effective in preventing a motivated terrorist attack on a university. Sneaking some guns on campus would be very easy unless the schools are on perpetual lockdown and the terrorists could just go room to room and shoot.

The same goes for shopping malls, movie theaters, parks and anywhere else where people gather.

1,324 posted on 04/16/2007 11:37:40 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: mommya

“9mm” usually implies that the weapon is a semiautomatic (i.e., self-loader, as opposed to a revolver) pistol. That means a detachable magazine capacity of at least 10 rounds (’bullets’). Common sizes are 10, 12, 15, 17, and 19; the largest commonly available are 30. Larger capacity magazines are generally not available due to technical issues with reliability and bulk.

A weapon with a detachable magazine means that it can be reloaded in a few seconds or less - simply push the magazine release button, the magazine drops out, and slam a new one home. Some guns can then immediately begin firing again, others you have to actuate the slide (pull the top half of the gun back and then release it) to load the top round. Reloading does take the use of both hands. Either way, a reload, while physically easy to do (even on a revolver) provides a few seconds in which someone could charge the gunman and take him down.


1,325 posted on 04/16/2007 11:37:48 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Quix
Brace yourself. The globalist puppet masters and their stooges the jihadi’s have scheduled 10’s of thousands of deaths in our beloved and beleagured land . . . many to be in schools.

You know this and you're not doing anything about it. Sheesh!

1,326 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:00 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: All
Bottom Line Folks,

Three hour rampage by deranged shooter/shooters. -Hundreds- of LEO respond.

Three hours go by. 30 plus dead.

THREE HOURS!

By noon CDT a complete lack of new details other than an increase in the body count.

The spin is in progress......

1,327 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:06 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Quix

There are clearly forces in the East and forces in the West who are behaving in ways that work to break down Western civilization...I sort of think that both sides may feel they are manipulating each other...

Both fronts are certainly our enemies. IMHO...


1,328 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:19 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: DCPatriot

Among commonly available sizes, and depending on the handgun, up to 30 round *magazines* are available.

The last “clip” fed automatic pistol that I can recall is the Mauser broomhandle, which uses 10 round stripper clips in a fixed box magazine.


1,329 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:23 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Grab and dash of the wounded is the only thing that makes sense if the shooter is nearby and armed with any kind of a decent rifle. Until the shooter is neutralized or moves off to a total different area EMS wouldn’t and shouldn’t go to the victims.


1,330 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:38 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: spunkets

save it for the politics threads.


1,331 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:48 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: DCPatriot
"What's the maximum clip capacity on those?"

On a handgun, I've seen them go up to 50 rounds with the magazine protruding out of the grip. 15 rounds is most common 9mm mag you will see.

1,332 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:53 AM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Again, I am not going to discuss guns on campus at this point. It’s taking my focus off of praying for the families which is far more important at this point.


1,333 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:16 AM PDT by ilovew (Almost a college graduate!!!)
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To: JFC

We need to get (our allies?) the Japanese, the Koreans and yes, even the Chinese to protest the use of the word ‘Asian’ to describe these muslim terrorists.


1,334 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:17 AM PDT by proudpapa (Forget Rudy McRomney it's Duncan Hunter in '08!)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Or “W-estern O-riental G-entleman” “WOG”.


1,335 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:21 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: AppyPappy

Keep safe sir.


1,336 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:35 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: VirginiaMom
Latest State Police report at 1:15pm stated perp was an Asian male and he shot himself. FBI and ATF are on scene. They believe the perp MAY have had military or law enforcement training and cannot rule out terrorism (they actually said a link to Al Qaeda) since this was a massive school shooting.

It would seem to me, if this were terrorism, the terrorist would keep shooting until killed, and would not have killed himself unless he ran out of ammo. In addition, reports of the "girlfriend" scenario seem very hard to believe. If that is the case, the shooter would have be be mentally ill to retaliate in a manner such as this. Now being reported, this is the deadliest shooting of this type in American history

1,337 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:36 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dfwgator
Al Qaeda you would have seen simultaneous attacks across multiple universities

Exactly right! On Threat Matrix it was posted it would be miltiple targets for maximum terror

1,338 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:44 AM PDT by JustPiper ("It's one thing to authorize. It's another thing to actually appropriate the money and do it")
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To: blam
"I have a 9mm Ruger and I have some clips that hold 40 rounds. I can change clips in about 2 seconds."

I have hi-cap mags for my Browning Hi-Power that hold 32. I also practice with a couple of rounds in a mag just to hone my skill at changing mags, firing two shots, changing mags, firing two shots...etc. 2 seconds is about average.
1,339 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:50 AM PDT by DocRock (What would Solomon Do?)
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To: dawn53

Dawn,we are talking about Virginia TECH so there are probably lots of Asian students at the school.
Sorry for the stereotype but its true.Engineering and hard science majors are frequently Asian-China,India,etc.


1,340 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:58 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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